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Posted on 3/18/22 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by jimjackandjose
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Posted on 3/18/22 at 9:40 pm to
Doctors get wined and dined a lot but that is also how they find out about new drugs that are out there. Big companies can push their products quickly and have lots of doctors in their pockets. Tons of doctors are connected now as private practices shrink. Big pharm gets the ceos of these businesses in their good graces and those ceos give direction to the doctors on what to prescribe.

My doctor didn’t even know what novavax was just 2 months ago. They don’t have time to research experimental drugs.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 10:06 pm to
Buyout smoke appears to be starting again. Anyone know what betaville said today?
Posted by jimjackandjose
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 1:59 pm to
With what we know about this drug, to me it is just a matter of time and when to accumulate the bulk of my shares
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 9:49 pm to
Anyone gonna join in on the Rosen Class action lawsuit? i just saw pop up on google. sounds like they're looking for people wanting to recoop losses
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 3/23/22 at 11:25 pm to
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My guess is he references the tendency of pharmaceutical companies to wine and dine (or bribe) general practitioners to increase their willingness to write more prescriptions.


This is all dictated very specifically by phrma code and the sunshine act and it is nothing like it used to be. Meals can be provided but within reason, the sessions must be educational, and gifts and kickbacks are a thing of the past. And all companies operate under these rules.

But as we see that doesn't stop people from pushing the "doctors are in the pockets of and getting paid by big pharma" narrative.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 11:27 pm
Posted by jimjackandjose
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 7:02 am to
Just look at the push of Pfizer vaccine, remdesirvir, and the effort to destroy ivermectin.
If it isnt doctors then it is their ceo business driven bosses pushing it down now.
I know doctors who were told how they could or could not treat patients and their doctors orders overridden. Big pharma is all in the middle of shady shite and a loner like auph cant compete with that network
Posted by jmcwhrter
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 7:19 am to
While I love a conspiracy as much as the next guy, the occam's razor explanation is that AUPH simply cannot win a marketing battle against GSK/Benlysta

Go google "Benlysta"... page after page of info, offers for discounts, etc

Now google "Lupkynis"... the third result is a Benlysta ad
Posted by jimjackandjose
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 7:42 am to
That’s why I said they can’t compete with that network.

The big boys own the businesses and the marketing.

A buyout is the only way this drug gets huge or big pharm reverse engineers it with a tweak or waits for patent to run out
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 7:31 am to
From StockTwits

Posted by bod312
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:28 am to



Oh...Total versus New prescriptions?
This post was edited on 3/25/22 at 8:29 am
Posted by jmcwhrter
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:32 am to
frickin 3.. 3 new scrips

Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 8:58 am to
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I know doctors who were told how they could or could not treat patients

By whom?

quote:

their doctors orders overridden

By whom?
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 10:23 pm to
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frickin 3.. 3 new scrips
Per Bloomberg…

That translates to somewhere between 18 to 48 in all actuality. So, ~30…
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 3/25/22 at 11:27 pm to
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I know doctors who were told how they could or could not treat patients

By whom?

their doctors orders overridden

By whom?



the government and/or employers. although their orders may not be 'overridden', doctors dont get free reign to practice as they see fit. there are often metrics and standards of care that must be met for better or worse. otherwise pay suffers or may even get fired. also pharmacies might not fill or offer alternatives etc. these measures may be data driven, political, monetary or a combination. hospitals may have contracts with companies for medications which leads to variable practice despite what may be best or most indicated.

none of this is new from covid, but it may be an eye opener to longstanding problems in medicine.
Posted by jimjackandjose
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Posted on 3/26/22 at 12:17 am to
Nope. People will just call us conspiracy theorist and continue on believing everything their doctors do and say without question
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 4/1/22 at 7:43 am to
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 4/1/22 at 7:51 am to
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Curious, what is RRx?

Refills. Just a guess really.
Posted by jmcwhrter
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Posted on 4/1/22 at 8:08 am to
As much as I don't want to give Peter any leash, those numbers do bear out that Omicron put the brakes on them bigtime.. that, or, the fall in Rx started right around the time the buyout rumors picked up. Sales force may have just said "frick it"
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 4/1/22 at 10:34 am to
The trend looks pretty great since the second week of Jan. Could have just been holidays.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 4/1/22 at 10:49 am to
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the government and/or employers. although their orders may not be 'overridden', doctors dont get free reign to practice as they see fit. there are often metrics and standards of care that must be met for better or worse. otherwise pay suffers or may even get fired. also pharmacies might not fill or offer alternatives etc. these measures may be data driven, political, monetary or a combination. hospitals may have contracts with companies for medications which leads to variable practice despite what may be best or most indicated.

none of this is new from covid, but it may be an eye opener to longstanding problems in medicine.


So all that was a long way to say that different people have different coverage and pharmacies can offer lower cost alternatives in some cases. That is nothing new, as you noted, and is totally fine. It is not evidence of behind the scenes shenanigans.

I've never heard of doctors getting fired for "metrics and standards of care that must be met", unless you're just talking about shitty doctors being fired, which would have no bearing on this discussion.

What would be an example of a political reason for a pharmacy to not fill an Rx?
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