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Posted on 4/1/22 at 11:34 am to
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 4/1/22 at 11:34 am to
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I've never heard of doctors getting fired for "metrics and standards of care that must be met", unless you're just talking about shitty doctors being fired, which would have no bearing on this discussion.


its getting very obvious you haven't paid much if any attention to the healthcare scene.

patient satisfaction scores are an obvious example, and docs can get ripped by the good practice of not giving opioids to drug seeking folks. there are all kinds of metrics doctors face. door-to-physician time, all kinds of input metrics required for EHR. none of that is related to the medical capability of the physician, instead its metrics and paper pushing stats.


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What would be an example of a political reason for a pharmacy to not fill an Rx?



very recently there are 2 highly public examples... ivermectin and hcq not being filled for political reasons. some doctors felt those meds were indicated and some pharms were instructed to not fill.

different states come up with different guidelines for medical practice based on political influence. politics is getting more and more intertwined with medicine whether you chose to bury your head or not.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 4/1/22 at 2:54 pm to
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some doctors felt those meds were indicated


Huh? Medications are either indicated for a condition or they are not. There is no "thinking a drug is indicated". And from what I've seen if a Rx for ivermectin or HCQ came in with either no condition listed or for a condition for which it is off label, it is at the discretion of the pharmacist to call and confirm that Rx or refuse it, as their license is the one on the line.
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 4/1/22 at 3:26 pm to
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Huh? Medications are either indicated for a condition or they are not. There is no "thinking a drug is indicated". And from what I've seen if a Rx for ivermectin or HCQ came in with either no condition listed or for a condition for which it is off label, it is at the discretion of the pharmacist to call and confirm that Rx or refuse it, as their license is the one on the line.


its called the practice of medicine, not the 100% black and white of medicine. there are in fact different opinions on indications whether you believe it or not especially when it comes to new pathogens and methods of treatment. there arent always double blinded clinical trials and meta analysis available to set standards. the license to practice is based on state laws. there is and always will be inherently political influences regardless of semantics due to that fact.

its at the discretion of the pharmacist, and their employers... who had political influence on their practice. there was increased political scrutiny for filling those meds and so they adjusted behavior.


I notice you moved right past the fact that there are metrics that doctors are beholden to.


ETA how can it possibly be 'either indicated or not' if the pharmacist has discretion. there is no room for discretion if it either is or isn't indicated. yet there was discretion, some pharmacies would fill others wouldn't...almost as if there are different opinions on what is indicated...
This post was edited on 4/1/22 at 4:11 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 4/1/22 at 4:29 pm to
I just feel like this thing explodes at some point. Buyout or not we gotta be undervalued here.
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 4/1/22 at 4:37 pm to
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I just feel like this thing explodes at some point. Buyout or not we gotta be undervalued here.



I certainly hope we sniff 30$ again at least
Posted by Volt
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Posted on 4/2/22 at 3:11 pm to
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patient satisfaction scores are an obvious example, and docs can get ripped by the good practice of not giving opioids to drug seeking folks. there are all kinds of metrics doctors face. door-to-physician time, all kinds of input metrics required for EHR. none of that is related to the medical capability of the physician, instead its metrics and paper pushing stats.


Nail meet hammer...

I wish the layperson knew what this meant about the healthcare they may or may not be receiving. Some people may not be receiving medical care based on medical necessity, but rather "you make them (patients) happy, you give them what they want" as was told to an NP years ago by the Chief Medical Officer of a large SELA hospital.

If I'm correct, we have the Affordable Care Act to thank for this.

Back on track...GEAUX AUPH.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 11:36 am to
Great report today. An all time high.
15 NRX, 26 total.
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 4/16/22 at 9:15 pm to
Should we all be interested?

LINK

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Class Action Lawsuit Has Been Filed Against Aurinia Pharmaceuticals, Inc. and Encourages Investors to Contact the Firm




Posted by JW6
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 3:26 am to
What is this about
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:16 am to
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ETA how can it possibly be 'either indicated or not' if the pharmacist has discretion. there is no room for discretion if it either is or isn't indicated.


A drugs indication is black and white. The pharmacist can choose whether or not to fill any Rx they receive from a patient. Doctors do have the ability to prescribe a drug off label, but there is no question what any given drug is officially approved for.
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:29 pm to
AUPH is in “deep fricking value” territory right now. BCRX, MYOV, TGTX, and SAVA have absolutely shite the bed within the last three weeks, while Lupkynis is doing what it’s supposed to be doing.

We’re just following the shitty XBI right now. While I’ve abandoned the idea of $50/share, this is a $30 stock.
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 8:30 pm
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:48 pm to
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A drugs indication is black and white.

I am actually a physician, please stop trying to incorrectly explain to me what an indication is
to put it simply, indications are not black and white because they are based off of MEDICAL OPINIONS

an indication just means a reason (sign/symptom/condition etc) to justify that there would be benefit from test/treatment etc. and guess what? symptoms by definition are subjective and benefits can be subjective. if you can determine an indication based off of subjective measures, then indications can be subjective.

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Doctors do have the ability to prescribe a drug off label, but there is no question what any given drug is officially approved for.

no doubt there is no question what a drug is officially approved for, but contrary to your incorrect belief, the FDA is not the sole arbiter of what makes an indication.
not all indications need to be/are FDA approved, and that requirement would be highly impractical.


ncbi
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Off-label drug use involves prescribing medications for indications, or using a dosage or dosage form, that have not been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration.
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To limit liability, physicians should prescribe medications only for indications that they believe are in the best interest of the patient.
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In addition, ß-adrenergic blocking agents are commonly prescribed for an off-label indication,

Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:27 am to
What I've been saying is not wrong and it appears you're playing a semantics game. I know what an indication is. Drugs are approved for certain indications...that is set in stone and clear as day. Drugs can be prescribed off label for other things, call them other indications. Prescribing for those non-FDA approved indications is prescribing them off label.

There is and should never be confusion over what uses a drug is indicated for, because anyone can easily confirm it by checking the ISI.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 11:10 am to
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What I've been saying is not wrong and it appears you're playing a semantics game. I know what an indication is. Drugs are approved for certain indications...that is set in stone and clear as day. Drugs can be prescribed off label for other things, call them other indications. Prescribing for those non-FDA approved indications is prescribing them off label.

There is and should never be confusion over what uses a drug is indicated for, because anyone can easily confirm it by checking the ISI.




just stop. you were wrong and its not due to semantics.
you even acknowledged the FDA is not the sole arbiter of what makes an indication by agreeing off-label use has indications. this means there can be indications for a drug not listed on the ISI.

no one is arguing about FDA having clear official indications. that doesnt change the fact that there are grey areas of indications for off-label use. specifically the grey area we were discussing was ivermectin and HCQ which some doctors felt to be indicated for off-label use for COVID. that would be their opinion, and an example of an indication not being 'black and white', which you incorrectly insist must be black and white.
Posted by Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 9:29 am to
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 9:39 am to
This is like SLI part deux. You think the stock should go up, it goes down. You think it should go down, it goes down.
Posted by CorkRockingham
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:22 am to
Anyone vote against all of the BOD. I did.
Posted by jmcwhrter
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 10:34 am to
definitely did
Posted by jimjackandjose
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:14 am to
This may be a good buy opportunity
Posted by Turftoe
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Posted on 4/28/22 at 11:57 am to
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This may be a good buy opportunity


Added 15% to my position in the 9.70's
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