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Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:03 pm to
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21082 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:03 pm to
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The Market is not the Economy


true....UNTIL the economy is so bad for long enough (see - past 2 quarters and then some) that these highly levered institutions start getting their margin calls (UK pension funds, crypto bros, and next up: sovereign bonds and real estate REITs and related)
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55488 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:14 pm to
My personal opinion.... no
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7969 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:25 pm to
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When we hit the bottom there will still be a ton of negativity and plenty of headline news reasons why NOT to be a buyer.


I don't disagree; this is historically accurate, market bottoms occur before the indicators. I just don't agree with your apparent assessment that that time is now.

In hindsight you have the benefit of knowing when the bad news stopped.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 6:54 pm
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12968 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

there is more pain and this is just a head fake


Good. I got positive and sold out. Waiting for the drop because this aint sustainable.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
89966 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 6:46 pm to
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Have we reached the bottom?


Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
8952 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:44 pm to
It’s a conundrum, bear sentiment is so high the only way the man can scalp $$$ is to push the market up but the macro says a crash is coming

Said it before and I’ll say it again, when the VIX pushes over 40 I’ll start putting my cash on the line. Wherever the market is at that point in time makes no difference to me. No bear market ends without a flush, or 2, ever.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91483 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:18 pm to
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Said it before and I’ll say it again, when the VIX pushes over 40 I’ll start putting my cash on the line. Wherever the market is at that point in time makes no difference to me. No bear market ends without a flush, or 2, ever.


Maybe, probably, but the VIX has only been around since 1993. It’s only seen 3 bear markets - once driven by the financial crisis and another by a global pandemic. I’m not sure if it’s the best gauge to extrapolate “every bear market” as many like to do (not accusing you of that).
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:20 pm to
Historically in midterm election years after a bad September the market rebounds in October and November.
Posted by tigerfive
Member since Nov 2020
531 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 12:45 am to
Dead cat bounce.
Posted by goodgrin
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2003
6980 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 5:19 am to
The market could drop another 30-40% before it starts to recover. That could be years before we see that happen. I have bookmarked this thread to revisit in a future bump.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20713 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 5:34 am to
I still have cash so we are probably not at the bottom.

A bottom usually does not occur until I am completely tapped out.
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
4118 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 7:04 am to
Not even close
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44150 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 9:57 am to
We are one geopolitical event from something really bad.
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