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Posted on 7/25/08 at 8:14 am to RSO
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Which well did you look at? There have only been a handfull of deep (past the pettit lime) wells drilled in Natch. Parish and I'm fairly familiar with most of them. That is, of course, if you can say.
Not going to say, and I think that the zone was at 15,000' not 17,000' as I previously stated. You look at enough of these things and they kind of run together sometimes. Still though, that is going to be very deep, and I would think it is going to be tough to make the economics work at that depth, but we'll just have to see.
Posted on 7/25/08 at 8:38 am to TigerDog83
Tigerdog, have you seen any info on the depth of the shale near zwolle? Land is in 28-8-12. Also thank you for your inputs on this board, very informative.
Posted on 7/25/08 at 8:51 am to captrick
I wouldn't want to just throw anything out there about Sabine, as I'm not very familiar with what is going on there in the shale. Shell supposedly is leasing heavily in Sabine.
Posted on 7/25/08 at 2:42 pm to TigerDog83
interesting
This post was edited on 11/1/08 at 9:19 am
Posted on 7/25/08 at 5:18 pm to ElmGrove
Re redefining the Haynesville Shale.I wish I could find out. I emailed Comm. Welsh on Jul 14 and again Jul 21 and still have not been given
an explation. It doesn't sound like it is a
good thing for hbp people. I think it is going
to take some more ( a lot more) emails or calls to get them to answer what is going on with this.
an explation. It doesn't sound like it is a
good thing for hbp people. I think it is going
to take some more ( a lot more) emails or calls to get them to answer what is going on with this.
Posted on 7/25/08 at 5:22 pm to ElmGrove
Perhaps TigerDog or Just Bill:
An exhibit to our lease which overrules conflicting language in the lease states, in part:
The term "oil, gas and minerals" as used herein shall refer to liquid or gaseous hydrocarbons only and then only such hydrocarbons that may be produced through conventional oil and gas drilling and production methods."
Is the drilling and production of shale formations (e.g., horizontal drilling and other techniques for drilling and producing from shale) considered conventional oil and gas drilling and production methods? Or would this provision exclude shale production?
I did find a definition from a USDOE site:
Conventional oil and natural gas production: Crude oil and natural gas that is produced by a well drilled into a geologic formation in which the reservoir and fluid characteristics permit the oil and natural gas to readily flow to the wellbore.
A member of our extended family, an oil and gas lawyer, wrote the addendum. I guess my question is: Could this be a HS exclusion?
An exhibit to our lease which overrules conflicting language in the lease states, in part:
The term "oil, gas and minerals" as used herein shall refer to liquid or gaseous hydrocarbons only and then only such hydrocarbons that may be produced through conventional oil and gas drilling and production methods."
Is the drilling and production of shale formations (e.g., horizontal drilling and other techniques for drilling and producing from shale) considered conventional oil and gas drilling and production methods? Or would this provision exclude shale production?
I did find a definition from a USDOE site:
Conventional oil and natural gas production: Crude oil and natural gas that is produced by a well drilled into a geologic formation in which the reservoir and fluid characteristics permit the oil and natural gas to readily flow to the wellbore.
A member of our extended family, an oil and gas lawyer, wrote the addendum. I guess my question is: Could this be a HS exclusion?
This post was edited on 7/25/08 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 7/25/08 at 5:31 pm to justbill
Wow, which I could get as many responses about what is going on in WEst Nat as I got about a simple post on leasing land in La. First, the lawyer did a simple succession for us. I live out of state and who cares if I lease my land to hunters or not which I did not nor would I ever do irregardless of HS or not. Secondly, my post was in response to the ridiculous phone calls. This guy got the phone number some kind of way from my posting on this site. I live in Atlanta and he lives in Nat parish. My whole point was he did not call about hunting but wanted to lease my land from me and in turn lease it to an OandG company. Yes, I know who would not be able to own the mineral rights but, what this lawyer told me is if I gave him a lease to the land out right he could sublet the land to the O and G, Of course there would be clauses that could be put in that would not allow subletting. Again, I still think this character called for some other reason than hunting. There were too many other questions and like I said he got me off of this site. Now with all of this being said, I am not stupid or interesting in buying something from folks in La that think that I am. I am at a disadvantage because I am not in your state nor am I familiar with all of your antiquated laws. I appreciate you Just Bill for being a nice guy and giving me info all along. This post if meant primarily for those posts that follow yours. Thanks. 
Posted on 7/25/08 at 5:45 pm to msesh
18,000' rigs
Seven 18,000' capable rigs coming to Haynesville shale be end of next year. As a participant in the southern end of the play, is it reasonable for me to expect these to be deployed in Natchitoches and Sabine?
Seven 18,000' capable rigs coming to Haynesville shale be end of next year. As a participant in the southern end of the play, is it reasonable for me to expect these to be deployed in Natchitoches and Sabine?
Posted on 7/25/08 at 5:45 pm to msesh
quote:
According to our attorney in Louisiana if we had leased the land for hunting then we could not safely allow someone to enter the property thus tying it up
quote:
It is a liability issue. I do not want to be sued if a hunter shoots an O& G person or seismic person by accident.
The above that you previously posted is what gave everyone that you probably needed a new attorney.
And no one really wanted to sell you anything, they were just having fun at your expense due to your posts.
Posted on 7/25/08 at 5:56 pm to insomniacnla
Probably absolutely nothing to do with you being an Alabama fan.
Posted on 7/25/08 at 6:33 pm to Annie
thanks
This post was edited on 11/1/08 at 9:19 am
Posted on 7/25/08 at 6:36 pm to gingles
gingles:
It reads okay to me. I don't think this wording is a problem.
Standard boiler plate. Not a HS issue.
But, again, maybe some who knows more than me will confirm.
It reads okay to me. I don't think this wording is a problem.
Standard boiler plate. Not a HS issue.
But, again, maybe some who knows more than me will confirm.
Posted on 7/25/08 at 6:46 pm to msesh
Take care.
This post was edited on 11/1/08 at 9:21 am
Posted on 7/25/08 at 6:55 pm to TigerDog83
tigerdog - this is off-topic but where is the Hosston formation stratigraphically? is it part of the cotton valley group? would it be considered upper jurassic or lower cretaceous?
just curious.
just curious.
Posted on 7/25/08 at 9:43 pm to gingles
quote:
Is the drilling and production of shale formations (e.g., horizontal drilling and other techniques for drilling and producing from shale) considered conventional oil and gas drilling and production methods?
Yes.
Posted on 7/25/08 at 9:47 pm to Smoke Green
quote:
where is the Hosston formation stratigraphically?
Lower Cretaceous, just above the Cotton Valley, which is Upper Jurrasic.
Posted on 7/25/08 at 9:49 pm to msesh
msesh
How pricey were the lawyer's fee for the simple succession?
The quotes I've received so far are quite high. I'm in ATL too.
How pricey were the lawyer's fee for the simple succession?
The quotes I've received so far are quite high. I'm in ATL too.
Posted on 7/26/08 at 6:32 am to ElmGrove
quote:
It reads okay to me. I don't think this wording is a problem.
Standard boiler plate. Not a HS issue.
But, again, maybe some who knows more than me will confirm.
Maybe just wishful thinking, but I was hoping someone knowledgeable here might tell me it's an out. There are less than two years left on the lease and at the pace happening now they won't be drilling there by then anyway.
Posted on 7/26/08 at 6:52 am to gingles
quote:
Maybe just wishful thinking, but I was hoping someone knowledgeable here might tell me it's an out. There are less than two years left on the lease and at the pace happening now they won't be drilling there by then anyway.
I already did. You don't have an out. HS gas can obviously migrate to the wellbore; it's conventional. Liquids and gases.
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