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Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:42 pm to
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:42 pm to
tesla invented a roofing material that is a solar panel.

its going to make Tesla a trillion and change the electricity paradigm as new homes are built with Tesla roofing, and people choose Tesla for the replacement roofing.

I paid $6,000 for an ordinary 30 year roof two years ago. damn.

I coulda been a contenda.

my middle sister bought into Tesla years ago. She has made a fortune.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134261 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:26 am to
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its ok you oil guys can sit and circle jerk while exxon and chevron return a couple percent a year,
Just so you know, with dividends reinvested XOM has returned 9.5%/year compounded from 1996 through 2016.

Why are you so angry that I or anyone else owns XOM?

How does me owning XOM hurt or affect you in any way?

I sense, based on your anger, your reaction to quit the Money Talk Board because some posters don't share your emotional views about TSLA and your several comments about the down votes you receive, that you have some serious insecurity/inferiority issues.

Your tantrum to quit the Money Talk Board is like the little boy who gets mad and wants to take his ball and go home when the other little boys won't let him be quarterback. If you want to take your ball and go home just because other people, who you've never even met, don't share your love for Tesla, then you're just being weird.

Dude, grow up.....
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 9:57 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134261 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:43 am to
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tesla invented a roofing material that is a solar panel.
That's only partially accurate, otto.

The solar material they hope will be used for roofing material is not yet in production. They "plan" on it being available by the end of this year.

As far as pricing, the company has not announced how much it will cost.

Like literally everything else Musk does, he announced the "solar roofing material" more than a year before it will be available and started taking orders.

He uses the opposite of Apple's strategy of keeping new products a secret and then having a grand announcement of the release of the product.

LINK
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8556 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:19 am to
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I sense, based on your anger, your reaction to quit the Money Talk Board because some posters don't share your emotional views about TSLA and your several comments about the down votes you receive, that you have some serious insecurity/inferiority issues.


As I've said before, I like DBF and his posts, but yeah his obsession with being downvoted on a message board is hilarious.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134261 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:40 am to
It really is. I don't understand the purpose of the up/down votes so my attitude is "who cares?"
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8556 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 10:56 am to
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It really is. I don't understand the purpose of the up/down votes so my attitude is "who cares?"


Same here. Surely he realizes the more he complains about it and shows that he cares, the more "downvotes" are gonna rain down.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
61816 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:54 pm to
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What am I missing here?

In short, many posters cannot handle DBF's Narcissistic Personality Disorder because he will put up instead of shutting up.

Me personally, I welcome it because he has provided some good info. He just needs to be able to handle a little criticism every now and then.
Posted by Number2
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
2440 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:23 pm to
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The solar material they hope will be used for roofing material is not yet in production.


It's a solar cell under a sheet of glass with film in between to give it its color. And two of the four tiles will be available this summer. Below are real pictures of all four tile types. Game changer.

LINK








This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 7:33 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134261 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 7:51 pm to
As I wrote, it is not yet in production.

From your link:
quote:

they will start production of the first one in Summer 2017
Posted by LSUneaux
Metairie and MAGA AF
Member since Mar 2014
4881 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:12 pm to
So the bottom line is Tesla will be making money off of rooftops in the near future?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134261 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:15 pm to
I have no idea. They haven't even released the price of their rooftop solar tiles yet.
Posted by Number2
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
2440 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 8:41 pm to
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As I wrote, it is not yet in production.


According to the article, installation of the roofs, not production of the tiles will begin this summer.

The quote you have is in the context of defending what Tesla initially planned for the production, as some are saying they are behind schedule:

quote:

When Tesla unveiled the solar roof concept in November 2016, they had 4 different types of tiles based on current roof styles and they said that they will start production of the first one in Summer 2017 and then release another one every few months.

It means that at least one or two of the styles would have been released in 2018. Therefore, the plans haven’t changed.



The article goes on to say:

quote:

Sources familiar with the program told Electrek that Tesla plans to open orders for the first 2 tiles in the next few weeks for installation in the next 2 to 3 months in the US. We should learn more this week.


I'm just saying roofs are supposed to start being installed this summer
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 8:45 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134261 posts
Posted on 5/2/17 at 9:16 pm to
Considering that Tesla has never met a single target date for any product (no kidding, there are numerous articles on that fact) I'll have to see it to believe it.

I wish they would release some technical data on their solar tiles such as how much power an average roof will generate, expected degradation rate, durability (people have to walk on their roofs to blow leaves off), how these new tiles compare to power generation of the traditional roof solar panels and price.

This may be what I've been waiting for regarding solar generation of electricity for my house. I'll keep checking on it.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 9:25 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134261 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:34 pm to
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Announces Investigation of Securities Claims Against Tesla, Inc.

Rosen Law Firm, a global investor rights law firm, announces it is investigating potential securities claims on behalf of shareholders of Tesla, Inc. (TSLA) resulting from allegations that Tesla may have issued materially misleading business information to the investing public.

On May 3, 2017, The Wall Street Journal reported that the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission is investigating whether Tesla’s SolarCity division “adequately disclosed how many customers have canceled contracts after signing up for a home solar-energy system.”

On this news, shares of Tesla fell sharply during intraday trading on May 3, 2017.
LINK

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Tesla First-Quarter Results Top Revenue Estimates, Miss On Earnings

Tesla (TSLA) reported first-quarter earnings after the market close Wednesday that missed Wall Street estimates.

Tesla reported revenue of $2,7 billion, beating the consensus estimate of $2.6 billion. But the luxury electric-car maker reported an adjusted loss of $1.33 a share, exceeding the 81 cents a share that Wall Street expected.
Investor's Business Daily

Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:37 pm to
Big miss on earnings
Posted by Turftoe
Denver
Member since Mar 2016
4375 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 4:05 pm to
Doesn't mean shite when musk is your lead man. It's been proved over and over again
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10713 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 4:16 pm to
These hit pieces are likely in an effort to scare retail and bail out some shorts. I doubt there's any merit to them.

That said, Tesla is still wildly overvalued and wall street is obsessed with them.

If the bears go savage on this it could be a buying opportunity as a long term hold.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134261 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 4:33 pm to
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These hit pieces
What hit pieces are you referring to?

The SEC announced today that they are investigating the reporting to the public the order cancellations of Tesla's solar company. ETA: Were the cancellations disclosed properly?

I didn't link or quote that news because it was referred to in the Rosen Law firm article which I did link.

This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 4:45 pm
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 4:57 pm to
the run up to earnings is the go-to play by the MM these days

AMD, FB, TSLA, BPMX all with the same scenario, rip up in anticipation of earnings and then dip down afterwards; glad i exited FB and TSLA when i did
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134261 posts
Posted on 5/3/17 at 5:16 pm to
Yeah, TSLA is down 2% in after hours trading now to $304.67 after being down 2.5% (-$7.87) closing at $311.02 during the day.

ETA: I'll just leave this here without comment.....

"Tesla is an emotional trade. At some point it's going to get ugly." - Portfolio Manager, May 3, 2017

ETA2: TSLA now down -3.2% in after hours trading to $301.25.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 5:34 pm
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