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re: Investing In Tesla
Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:02 am to cave canem
Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:02 am to cave canem
Musk is still tweeting and stirring shite up. He is gonna get fricked up if he doesn't stfu.
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Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:17 am to Janky
Whatever happened to the "every social media post will be vetted beforehand" clause?
Posted on 10/29/18 at 10:23 am to castorinho
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:04 am to LSU2a
quote:
. Many people here are financially tied to fossil fuels
Yea and we know the majority of electricity in this country is produced with natural gas.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:33 am to LSU2a
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The real reason why Tigerdroppings hates Tesla has nothing to do with the business model or finances.
Or, and feel free to call me crazy here, TSLA just has bad financials and a ridiculous stock price that make it a terrible investment. TSLA has a similar debt to assets ratio as Ford and GM, but TSLA has failed to officially report a profit.
Through Q3 2018, TSLA has produced 404k vehicles in its lifetime. Meanwhile, Ford's 2017 production was 6.6 million vehicles, or 16.5x greater, and GM's 2017 production was 9.6 million vehicles, or 24x greater.
Meanwhile, TSLA has a market cap of ~$57 billion. GM has a market cap of ~$47 billion, and Ford has a market cap of ~$37 billion. Ford's dividend yield is ~6.5%, and GM's is ~4.5%; TSLA, obviously, does not pay a dividend.
The WSJ also reports that F has a tangible book value of $8.53, and the stock is currently priced at $9.30 a share (or 1.09x tbv). GM's tangible book value is $20.82 a share, and the stock is currently priced at $33.40 a share (or 1.6x tbv). TSLA's tangible book value is $22.60 a share, and the stock is currently priced at $331.60 a share (or 14.67x tbv).
TSLA could be the future of the automobile industry, but its potential future success is largely or entirely 'priced in' (side note: as much as I hate that phrase, it's appropriate here).
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:03 pm to Omada
I apologize for bumping this old thread but I thought today's news release announcing layoffs of 3,000 employees by Musk is worth noting.
I sense a bit of panic, or maybe even despair, in what he said this morning.
TSLA shares are down 12% (-$41.55/share) as I post this
I sense a bit of panic, or maybe even despair, in what he said this morning.
quote:
Tesla Cutting More Jobs As Elon Musk Talks Of ‘Difficult’ Road Ahead
“Tesla will need to make these cuts while increasing the Model 3 production rate and making many manufacturing engineering improvements in the coming months,” he said. “Higher volume and manufacturing design improvements are crucial for Tesla to achieve the economies of scale required to manufacture the standard-range (220 mile), standard-interior Model 3 at $35k and still be a viable company.
There isn't any other way.”
“Tesla has only been producing cars for about a decade and we’re up against massive, entrenched competitors. The net effect is that Tesla must work much harder than other manufacturers to survive while building affordable, sustainable products.”
TSLA shares are down 12% (-$41.55/share) as I post this
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:15 pm to LSURussian
I think they made a critical error in judgment with the model 3 roll out. They should have rolled out the advertised 35k base model first imo. I'm one of the lost customers because I cancelled the reservation when it looked like a bait and switch
Posted on 2/28/19 at 4:50 pm to Powerman
quote:You can now get back in line for the $35,000 model.
I think they made a critical error in judgment with the model 3 roll out. They should have rolled out the advertised 35k base model first imo. I'm one of the lost customers because I cancelled the reservation when it looked like a bait and switch
Tesla announced after the market closed today that they will finally start producing the "cheap" Tesla.
I haven't seen all the details but one nugget of information in the announcement is the $35,000 offer is only valid for reservations taken over the next 90 days. After that the price goes up to $50,000.
I'm trying to figure out that market strategy....
Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:55 pm to LSURussian
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I'm trying to figure out that market strategy.
Customers with short memories
Posted on 3/1/19 at 10:07 am to LSURussian
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I'm trying to figure out that market strategy....
Trying to shore up cash before the end of Q1.
They communicated that wouldn’t be profitable this quarter a month after “Tesla will be profitable every quarter here on out”....
Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:07 am to southernelite
Lol Tesla fanbois downvoting me 
Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:29 pm to southernelite
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Short Term ie 18 months I'll say $500-700 and longer term like a decade
Was dabigfella trolling or did he really believe this?
Posted on 3/3/19 at 10:19 pm to PetroBabich
Pump and dumper.
End thread.
End thread.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 7:43 am to TigerDeBaiter
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Pump and dumper.
End thread.
You're saying he was pumping a 50B market cap company?
Posted on 3/4/19 at 8:20 am to PetroBabich
quote:I'm pretty sure he believed it. Look how he attacked me for just giving my opinion that TSLA is a speculative stock. You would have thought I had insulted his mother.
Short Term ie 18 months I'll say $500-700 and longer term like a decade
Was dabigfella trolling or did he really believe this?
Jim Cramer said it better last week when he said he could see TSLA going to $1,000/share and he could also see it going to $0.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 10:31 am to LSURussian
Don't care about Tesla one way or the other, had a few shares for a while but it was too nerve wracking to hold onto as a long-term investment. Part of me hope Tesla goes under so that Musk can focus more on SpaceX. I think electric vehicles are coming to replace most fossil fuel vehicles now anyway with other manufacturers being not too far behind Tesla. Musk's contributions to society are much more important on the SpaceX side.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 10:49 am to GeneralLee
Agreed. We don’t need Musk for the electric vehicle revolution. Other companies can do that heavy lifting. Musk’s time is more valuable to society with SpaceX, and I’d even argue his Boring Company which can revolutionize transportation, which would have a ripple effect on other industries.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 11:16 am to GeneralLee
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think electric vehicles are coming to replace most fossil fuel vehicles now anyway
Currently and for a number of years in the future, electric vehicles in this country are fossil fuel vehicles.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:16 pm to CajunTiger92
so glad i got the hell out over 300. don't catch this falling knife
Posted on 3/5/19 at 11:04 am to LSUneaux
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Musk’s time is more valuable to society with SpaceX, and I’d even argue his Boring Company which can revolutionize transportation, which would have a ripple effect on other industries.
Dude...
Are you serious with this? I like Space X independent of Musk. I wish he would go quietly into the night and let real engineers take over that business. But the Boring Company is quite possibly the biggest joke in modern business history. Bigger than Theranos. Do you really think if his ideas were actually economically feasible and more efficient that the millions of engineers that actually work in these fields wouldn't have done the same?This post was edited on 3/5/19 at 11:06 am
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