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We are all about to witness the first real MMT experiment

Posted on 7/30/22 at 7:44 pm
Posted by Knuckle Checker
Member since Jan 2019
635 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 7:44 pm
And I predict it’s going to fail miserably

Modern Monetary Theory states that as long as you are an issuer of currency you can print as much as you want. Debt is irrelevant. The only constraint is inflation.

Well here we are experiencing inflation. So when you are trying to predict what will happen next you need to listen to what MMT theorists have said in the past.

Their prescription for inflation is to increase taxes. Inflation is going to continue and they are going to increase taxes and crush this economy further into the gutter.

MMT is woke economics and all the people in power have bought into it. It’s going to be a complete and utter disaster.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
52321 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 7:48 pm to
Yet another alter
Posted by Knuckle Checker
Member since Jan 2019
635 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 7:52 pm to
By deflecting, I’m assuming you believe the powers that be don’t prescribe to modern monetary theory. Is that true?

Everything about our spending says they do
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61660 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 8:27 pm to
Cool
Posted by Knuckle Checker
Member since Jan 2019
635 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 9:19 pm to
The responses are very telling. They wreak of insecurity. You know there is something rotten in the system but you also know there is no logical way to defend Modern Monetary Theory.

You probably have a shitload of money invested in the system and it’s easier to keep your head in the sand rather than face the cognitive dissonance your brain is experiencing.

Or you can try to defend MMT. I welcome the debate.
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
4143 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 10:41 pm to
When I first heard MMT I thought it was a joke. Then they started printing money in 2007 and 08. No inflation resulted. I kept waiting for the shoe to drop. We kept printing and printing and the shoe never dropped. Pandemic hits, the shoe drops. All it needed was a spark and the fire is lit and not going out until all that new money is burned.

I think a crypto collapse, similar to what has occurred, is the only way to burn most of it off without having severe consequences similar to the Great Depression.
Posted by Knuckle Checker
Member since Jan 2019
635 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:11 pm to
The politicians love MMT. You know they don’t understand it but all they know is they can point to some scientists and say they said it was ok to keep passing massive spending bills.

It’s a recipe for complete disaster

But the theory itself if designed to redistribute wealth. You spend excessively on social programs which benefits the poor. Then you create inflation which decreases the value of savings and wealth. Then the solution to that inflation is higher taxes.

It’s back door wealth redistribution that no one sees coming

They openly talk about wealth redistribution in the literature
This post was edited on 7/30/22 at 11:12 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40688 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:14 pm to
Wealth redistribution to the poors?
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
4143 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:27 pm to
Socialism.

While states cannot coin money, they may be able to create virtual currency to get out of this mess. There’s no reason we should have to lose the value of our money because the federal government doesn’t balance their books and hasn’t cut anything of substance in decades.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
46766 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 11:29 pm to
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Their prescription for inflation is to increase taxes.


This is not accurate. At least for the people that actually developed MMT.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4912 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 6:29 am to
Wasn’t a fan of QE but that money never went into M2, that’s why inflation never crept up on us.

Congress just created 40% of all US dollars within the past couple years through PPP and stimmy checks. That exploded M2 and is part of the reason if why we are seeing inflation now.
Posted by Knuckle Checker
Member since Jan 2019
635 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 7:09 am to
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This is not accurate. At least for the people that actually developed MMT.


This is a lie

They have stated multiple times that you need to raise taxes then when asked about it they shy away from that because they know it’s extremely unpopular

Or they say “well raising taxes isn’t the only way to reduce inflation, you could reduce spending”

Do you really think the government is going to reduce spending?

Stop repeating talking points and do some research
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471815 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 7:44 am to
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This is not accurate. At least for the people that actually developed MMT.

Wait what? You have to explain.

Taxation is MMT's way to remove money from circulation to thwart inflation. MMT is a system of piling money into the economy (via public spending) then taking it back (via taxes).

Inflation is always the big question mark with MMT and they acknowledge that. What do you believe is their prescription for that ailment?
Posted by Knuckle Checker
Member since Jan 2019
635 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Wait what? You have to explain. Taxation is MMT's way to remove money from circulation to thwart inflation. MMT is a system of piling money into the economy (via public spending) then taking it back (via taxes). Inflation is always the big question mark with MMT and they acknowledge that. What do you believe is their prescription for that ailment?


It looks like someone else here has actually done some research instead of regurgitating talking points.

Bravo sir
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