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Posted on 7/18/22 at 8:47 pm to moontigr
Yea Farley didn’t get into trouble in 95. That was his first year at Nebraska coming from I think Independence college. He made some big plays but he wasn’t their best player. He was a 205lb MLB who was cut loose to do damage because that front 4 was so disruptive and they were so good on the back end. And I liked Farley a lot but he’s one guy, I’m talking about the LB group as a whole vs LSUs underneath passing game and run game. I think that’s the biggest advantage for LSU
Posted on 7/18/22 at 8:49 pm to GentleJackJones
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Bear in mind,
I see what you did there.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 9:05 pm to Madking
If you watch what Florida did to Nebraska in the 1Q, they ran the underneath routes with Doering and kept it close for a little while… once Nebraska’s defense made adjustments going into the 2Q it was all over.
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 7/18/22 at 9:17 pm to moontigr
Yep and even though it wasn’t the same exact group they absolutely overwhelmed Manning and Tennessee a couple years later. That defense was doing things that other teams just started doing 5 or 6 years ago. All these double A gap blitz looks and confusing multiple fronts you see now Nebraska was doing that in the mid 90s. That’s why I say it would be closer than a lot of people think but I do think Burrows ability to seriously damage the blitz along with the matchups of Jefferson, CEH and Moss underneath is the advantage. Doering is one thing but JJ is a top 5-10 quality NFL WR, plus you add Helaire and Moss, that’s a different level of personnel and different scheme than Florida. Remember Spurrier refused to go to the gun until a year later after the FSU game. They were under center the entire time vs Nebraska.
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 7/19/22 at 12:58 am to moontigr
Eh the talent was still rolling in and Osborne probably could have pulled off another title with the 99 team.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:20 am to moontigr
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It's not Nebraska's faulty that LSU played 3 more games;
It’s not LSU’s fault they played a far more difficult schedule.
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Nebraska could've played 3, 10, 20, 100 more games that season - nobody was beating them. [quote]
Nobody thought Arizona State would shut their arse out. Nobody thought mediocre Texas would gain 500 yards of offense in a stunning upset.
Whenever you tee it up, you can always lose or play like shite. This is especially true when we are talking about two of the extra three games being a conference championship or playoff semifinal.
[quote] Florida had won every one of their first 12 games by double digits and the Gator offense averaged over 44 points, 360 passing yards, and 534 yards of total offense per game. The Nebraska defense limited the Gators to 269 yards of offense and -28 rushing yards while registering a safety, seven quarterback sacks, and three interceptions
2019 LSU dominated the defending national champions with a 29 game winning streak, a #1 draft pick at QB, and knew something about playing defense.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:54 am to Globetrotter747
LSU played a more difficult schedule, but they had games where the other team was still in it late in the game. I was in Orange Beach at a resort when they were playing Auburn, and at the end of the game LSU fans were still on the edge of their seats.
Meanwhile...
36-7
20-7
63-21
35-0
20-7
28-0
35-6
31-14
38-7
14-3
13-0
35-10
Those were Nebraska's halftime scores that year. They could've gone scoreless in the 2nd half of every game and still would've won them all -- they had more points at halftime than their opponents finished the game with. In other words -- every one of their games was over by halftime.
Yes, Burrow won the Heisman and was an excellent QB... but don't forget that Tommie Frazier was the MVP of THREE straight national championship games, and would've won the Heisman in a landslide had it been voted on after the bowl games instead of beforehand.
Meanwhile...
36-7
20-7
63-21
35-0
20-7
28-0
35-6
31-14
38-7
14-3
13-0
35-10
Those were Nebraska's halftime scores that year. They could've gone scoreless in the 2nd half of every game and still would've won them all -- they had more points at halftime than their opponents finished the game with. In other words -- every one of their games was over by halftime.
Yes, Burrow won the Heisman and was an excellent QB... but don't forget that Tommie Frazier was the MVP of THREE straight national championship games, and would've won the Heisman in a landslide had it been voted on after the bowl games instead of beforehand.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 10:57 am
Posted on 7/19/22 at 6:04 pm to moontigr
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LSU played a more difficult schedule, but they had games where the other team was still in it late in the game. I was in Orange Beach at a resort when they were playing Auburn, and at the end of the game LSU fans were still on the edge of their seats.
2019 Auburn had two first round draft picks and one second round pick. 1995 Kansas, Kansas State, and Colorado had no one selected in the first two rounds. LSU’s opponents had so much more talent it’s a joke.
But I’m sure the 3-8 Washington State team Nebraska beat by 14 pts. must have had a bushel of first round picks.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 7:14 pm to Globetrotter747
I'm not debating that LSU had a tougher schedule. I'm not debating that they had the best season ever. But this is about the best TEAM, and Nebraska 95 was that. It doesn't matter who they played, they were going to win. In addition, having NFL talent doesn't always equate to having a good college team. NFL player success has nothing to do with college team success.
Look: I'm an LSU grad; I got my Master's from LSU. My daughter graduated from LSU. That said, Nebraska 1995 was the better team. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
Look: I'm an LSU grad; I got my Master's from LSU. My daughter graduated from LSU. That said, Nebraska 1995 was the better team. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 7/20/22 at 2:04 am to moontigr
Trev alberts when asked about the bama run from 09-12, and bear in mind he played in that era for nebraska: "we were great and i love our guys but we wouldnt have a chsnce against those guys (bama)". Boom .. enough said
Posted on 7/20/22 at 2:12 am to GentleJackJones
Yeah 2011 was so shitty that it averaged 38 a game and won ganes by an avg of 27 a game. Try again genuis
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:18 am to moontigr
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It doesn't matter who they played, they were going to win.
They weren’t indestructible superheroes. They were a great team that (unlike a lot of past seasons) simply didn’t play anyone well suited to stopping their running game and at least making them look mortal.
I remember back in 1985-1987 Oklahoma went 11-1 for three straight years. Beat all the Big 8 cupcakes 50-0 just like ‘95 Nebraska. In fact, Switzer is famous for the phrase “Let’s go hang half a hundred on ‘em” due to how routinely they beat the shite out of their weak Big 8 foes. But those three losses (in which they never scored more than 16) were all to peak Miami because they had great front people (Jerome Brown and the like) and Jimmy Johnson coached against OU for five years at OSU and he was familiar with the wishbone.
Oklahoma probably wins three straight undefeated national titles during that stretch (with a lot of video game scores) without Miami in the mix and we’re talking about them as the GOAT.
‘95 Nebraska didn’t have to face the kind of defenses (in the regular season or bowl game) that always gave Nebraska and Oklahoma problems - and that contributed greatly to their dominance that season. Switzer and Osborne rarely scored much on each other due to personnel and familiarity and damn sure didn’t score much on prime FSU and Miami. ‘95 Nebraska faced none of those challenges.
Matchups are important. When you can score 50+ against defensive linemen from Kansas that will be selling insurance in a year just by running tosses, counters, isos, traps, belly/speed options, etc., - all easily executed plays - it’s hard to have a poor game.
You can’t do that in the modern game. You have to be able to throw downfield, execute screens, use RPO’s, etc. All those things are have big play potential but are harder to execute at a high level consistently and look like a million bucks every game against the very much elite defensive talent in today’s SEC.
Edited to add:
Consider the 1986 Oklahoma Sooners season when you take away Nebraska and Miami:
#4 UCLA 38-3
Minnesota 63-0
Kansas State 56-10
Texas 47-12
OSU 19-0
ISU 38-0
Kansas 64-0
Missouri 77-0
Colorado 28-0
#9 Arkansas 42-8 (Orange Bowl)
Little bit easier world when both your biggest rival and biggest bully are both out of the picture.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 8:42 am
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:34 am to Frac the world
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11 Bama probably stands a better chance to beat them than 19 LSU because that 11 squad would actually get a stop or two. 19 LSU would just be absolutely skull drug on defense, they wouldn’t stop 95 Nebraska one single time with that arse defense.
fricking hilarious. arse defense that shut down Georgia, OU, and Clemson on the biggest stages. We gave yall a late easy TD and took a a half off against Ole Miss the following and you act like we were all of a sudden bad on defense. 2011 Bama needed two tries to beat Jordan fricking Jefferson.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 8:35 am to TiderinVa
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Yeah 2011 was so shitty that it averaged 38 a game and won ganes by an avg of 27 a game. Try again genuis
Playing a bunch of shite teams will do that for you. You weren't playing 2011 LSU's schedule.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:00 am to Globetrotter747
You continue to bring up that Oklahoma and Miami were out of the picture... regardless, Colorado and Kansas State were both very good programs at that point, as was Florida. They had already proven that they could beat Miami the previous season, which had an excellent defense - and say what you want about the Hurricanes' lack of offensive firepower on that squad, they still were an elite team full of draft picks. Beating them on their home field, where they had lost once in their previous 60+, not to mention with the national championship hanging in the balance (Miami still could have won it, had Penn State lost their game), with a QB who had been out for 8 games, was quite a feat. KSU had the #1 defense in 95, and Nebraska obliterated them. Florida was a very good team that won it all the following season and they got blown off the field. You keep making excuses as to why Nebraska won so easily but it just doesn't matter. No team was going to beat them.
Just curious, who do you think is the GOAT NFL team?
Just curious, who do you think is the GOAT NFL team?
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 10:06 am
Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:03 am to TiderinVa
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Trev alberts when asked about the bama run from 09-12, and bear in mind he played in that era for nebraska: "we were great and i love our guys but we wouldnt have a chsnce against those guys (bama)". Boom .. enough said
Source?
And a better question: why the heck is 2011 Bama even in the discussion? They lost.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 10:10 am
Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:23 am to moontigr
1990 San Fran.
Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:52 am to GentleJackJones
1995 Nebraska
Posted on 7/20/22 at 10:56 am to TiderinVa
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Trev alberts when asked about the bama run from 09-12, and bear in mind he played in that era for nebraska: "we were great and i love our guys but we wouldnt have a chsnce against those guys (bama)". Boom .. enough said
Trev Alberts also said there was no chance LSU was beating UGA in the SEC championship game in 2003.
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