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re: B1G expansion rumors are surfacing
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:42 pm to Ostrich
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:42 pm to Ostrich
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Why? I would hate to lose the RRR.
it would be fun to play tOSU, UM, MSU, UW, Neb, etc. i think it could push academics forward. the conference as a whole, gets tons of respect.
i wouldn't love losing the RRR either, but i'd rather look out for OU before worrying about losing a rivalry. i don't think the version of the big12 right now is great, and i'd rather lose the RRR than add a couple shitty teams to fill a void.
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:49 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Please God let them take Mizzou.
might as well say, please dear God, I want my school and conference to make less money on the SEC Network
Posted on 1/7/16 at 12:49 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Please God let them take Mizzou.
might as well say, please dear God, I want my school and conference to make less money on the SEC Network
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:19 pm to theOG
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i wouldn't love losing the RRR either, but i'd rather look out for OU before worrying about losing a rivalry. i don't think the version of the big12 right now is great, and i'd rather lose the RRR than add a couple shitty teams to fill a void.
RRR was a non-con affair for a very long time. Don't see enough lil bro syndrome to stop it from happening if y'all aren't in the same conference.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:24 pm to Ostrich
quote:don't see why you couldn't still play it
Why? I would hate to lose the RRR
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:49 pm to WestCoastAg
They probably won't though. Hypothetical Aggies:
What if the SEC added Texas and OU and went to pods where OU, A&M, Tx, and or Arky or LSU were in the same pod. How'd that make you all feel?
What if the SEC added Texas and OU and went to pods where OU, A&M, Tx, and or Arky or LSU were in the same pod. How'd that make you all feel?
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:53 pm to MontyFranklyn
I mean they probably won't play immediately at first but they would start up again once they had space in their schedule. No way either school wouldn't play eachother
quote:I mean we obviously wouldn't be super happy but that isn't happening so no reason to really think about it
What if the SEC added Texas and OU and went to pods where OU, A&M, Tx, and or Arky or LSU were in the same pod. How'd that make you all feel?
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:56 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Hypothetical Aggies:
What if the SEC added Texas and OU and went to pods where OU, A&M, Tx, and or Arky or LSU were in the same pod. How'd that make you all feel?
that wouldn't really have any bearing on their chances of winning the league, its not like they'll be finishing above fourth very often as it currently is.
(i feel very vulnerable talking shite after the our recent nationally televised arse beating)
that would be a hell of a tough pod.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 1:59 pm to theOG
I know. I don't think you could sell any of the teams on being in it.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 1/7/16 at 4:14 pm to PAGator
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I'm hoping for the remote possibility that the Big Ten (and ACC) destroys itself somehow and Penn State rejoins our true home with Pitt, Syracuse, WVU, VA Tech and Notre Dame (others include BC, Temple, UConn, and Rutgers).
The Big Ten kind of sucks, but we were basically forced to join. It was that or the abortion that was the Big East
The conferences aren't going to change for the foreseeable future. But with that said, your plan would be good for all of the above schools. They would be competing against their regional, and natural, rivals.
This would make the ACC smaller, but that would be a good thing.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 1/7/16 at 4:22 pm to MontyFranklyn
how nearsighted can one be to consider more expansion considering todays cable climate?
my god in 10 years, delaney is going to be the laughing stock of NCAA.
Rutgers and Maryland...and now Kansas?
Holy toledo
my god in 10 years, delaney is going to be the laughing stock of NCAA.
Rutgers and Maryland...and now Kansas?
Holy toledo
Posted on 1/7/16 at 4:25 pm to WeeWee
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There will be a SECN app, a BIGN app, a PAC-12N app, etc and the networks will get their money.
not sheriff srs
an app wont make near as much money as the current model.
an app doesnt force people to have the network - it lets the user choose.
an app would change everything.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 4:27 pm to KosmoCramer
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Rutgers and Maryland are major State universities. There's really no looking back badly on this.
the BIG is currently loaning Maryland future TV money to stay afloat - how is that a positive situation?
the only way this was ever a positive is because of the "tv cable dollars" but since that will no longer be there...youre stuck with Rutgers ...and Maryland.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 4:34 pm to rocket31
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how nearsighted can one be to consider more expansion considering todays cable climate?
Si.
The current model will die, sooner rather than later, and whatever comes next will be less profitable.
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my god in 10 years, delaney is going to be the laughing stock of NCAA.
With an a la carte or on demand system, you need games people want to watch. I suppose Maryland is somewhat popular, in some sports, but I don't think Rutgers registers very well. You could argue that more content is better in such a system, but you're also watering down your product by including lesser teams in your conference - which in turn makes it less valuable.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 1/7/16 at 4:47 pm to Lima Whiskey
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but you're also watering down your product by including lesser teams in your conference - which in turn makes it less valuable.
indeed.
teams like Ohio State, for example, suffer when poverty schools get added to the conference because a) they are then forced to schedule poorer competition and b) they subsidize the schools that dont add financially to the conference.
It works "okay" for now, but in five, ten years? That will not be sustainable.
an independent Ohio State, free to schedule who they wish, likely makes the playoffs with one loss. Being in the B1G gave them no margin of error.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 4:52 pm to rocket31
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teams like Ohio State, for example, suffer when poverty schools get added to the conference because a) they are then forced to schedule poorer competition and b) they subsidize the schools that dont add financially to the conference.
Sure...but in the overall picture, strength in numbers. Political ties, CIC, voting bloc, and reliability.
The benefits far outweigh the costs of giving up a few million in revenue for their sports. That is for the B1G at least, where academics/research are very important.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 5:00 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Duke and UNC are not hitched together. In fact UNC would love nothing more than to hurt Duke.
You think the sports rivalry extends to the institutions.
You are very very very wrong.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 5:03 pm to 5thTiger
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Sure...but in the overall picture, strength in numbers. Political ties, CIC, voting bloc, and reliability.
The benefits far outweigh the costs of giving up a few million in revenue for their sports. That is for the B1G at least, where academics/research are very important.
Sure, but when you're a half-wit on a message board you think "derp derp, the Buckeyes should throw up the peace sign to the stupid Big Ten and become independent. They could schedule anyone they want and still make the football playoffs!!!!"
To people who are idiots or have zero connection to the school other than rooting for the football team a few Saturdays a year, they think switching conferences is just like NCAA Football 2012© and has no other repercussions.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 5:03 pm to 5thTiger
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The benefits far outweigh the costs of giving up a few million in revenue for their sports. That is for the B1G at least, where academics/research are very important.
the whole point of this is to grow revenue. Adding Nebraska made sense if for no other reason that got the B1G to 12 and the profitable B1G CG, however, Nebraska can hold their own in terms or adding revenue, Rutgers and Maryland do not those were additions based solely on the idea of adding large metro areas based on the current cable model.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 5:54 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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The ACC brand used to be big on academics too. Then they let Loserville in
There's a BIG difference.
Big Ten: 13/14 schools are members of the AAU. (Nebraska was kicked out in 2011)
ACC: Duke, UNC, Wake Forest, Virginia, Georgia Tech, and Pittsburgh are members. That's 6/14 (lost Maryland, who was a member)
PAC 12: Washington, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Cal, Stanford, Colorado, and Oregon. That's 8/12
SEC: Florida, Missouri, Texas A&M, and Vanderbilt. That's 4/14
Big 12: Texas, Iowa State, and Kansas. That's 3/10 (Lost Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, and Texas A&M)
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