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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:47 pm to
Welp, hope you enjoyed the best run you'll ever have, Baylor
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:48 pm to
When is Starr getting fired?
Posted by tylercsbn9
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:59 pm to
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Have we forgotten Duke lacrosse or the UVA thing already?


I wonder if what happened with the basketball program years ago played into the decision?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:01 pm to
i think the only reason this whole thing ever got exposed is b/c Baylor is good at FB. if this was dumbfrick state, nobody ever cares enough
Posted by texastigerr
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:02 pm to
Not if they hire a guy like Larry Fedora which our from a UNC guy today who is a little worried.
Posted by BearsFan
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:03 pm to
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Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:03 pm to
On the contrary, the only reason why this wasn't dealt with last summer was because no one really cares about baylor. If this had happened at ND or bama, it would have been the biggest sport story of the year
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:05 pm to
This is all you need slow.

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Significant concerns about the tone and culture within Baylor's football program as it relates to accountability for ALL forms of student athlete misconduct.


Just like recruiting, seems lack of institutional control. Whether Briles is a scapegoat doesn't matter. He is the head coach and therefore still deserves the blame.

It's just like Joe PA. Even if Joe reported to administration, he did nothing when they did nothing.


Basically Briles took it upon himself to be the judge and jury for some of his players. Oh I believe my player, so I'll keep playing him. It's not his place to decide that.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 1:11 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:05 pm to
but even then, you're dealing with "big time" programs that are good at FB
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:06 pm to
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Now you could argue the university did a poor job of investigating these claims, but that's not Briles' job.


It specifically says in the report Baylor provided that football staff gave the impression of conducting a University investigation into some of the allegations but then did not follow through on reporting the assaults to the appropriate authorities. Briles is over football personnel and since it's being reported that the rest of the staff is not being fired that gives the impression that it may be speaking of Briles directly.

As to the data SFP is asking for, it's a private university releasing a report and I'm guessing that's protected for now. If Briles feels he's wrongly fired than a suit against them would pull that info out (so be it).
Posted by BearsFan
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:06 pm to
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Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:06 pm to
But this doesn't take a whole year and get this close to being blown over if it's at an actual major football program
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:07 pm to
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But this doesn't take a whole year and get this close to being blown over if it's at an actual major football program

well yeah nobody is calling BU a major CFB program

but the fact that it was knocking on the door in CFB was enough

if we're talking Tarleton State or Elon, then nobody ever hears about this and it likely stays in the shadows
Posted by BearsFan
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:08 pm to
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Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:08 pm to
Well sure, but they arent FBS P5 programs. I think this goes pretty similar if this happens at Purdue or Washington state
Posted by Knight of Old
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:10 pm to
Tweets are indicative of flawed culture - I see a lot of kids using arguments along the lines of 'every body does it' or 'nobody would care if it was a losing program'. Tautological dissembling, IMO.

Charges against and convictions of so many players raise way more than reasonable doubt that things are broken.

Way, way too much smoke to deny that there's a fire here.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted by BearsFan
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:10 pm to
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Posted by BeYou
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:10 pm to
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Not if they hire a guy like Larry Fedora which our from a UNC guy today who is a little worried.


he wouldn't be at the top of the list but I could see us going to him.

Saban
Tom Herman
Dino Babers
Phil Montgomery
Kendall Briles

kidding on Saban
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:11 pm to
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Violence against women is more of a Bama/LSU thing


How soon they forget...

Baton Rouge Police: 'Auburn fan' steals truck, kidnaps woman, hits 9 cars, cites 'Grand Theft Auto'

Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 1:12 pm to
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They press release says that others are being fired (not limited to just the athletic department), but it won't be done publicly.


Gotcha. I was going with the Tweet earlier that stated the rest of the football staff would be retained outside of Briles in the meantime (it didn't mention the University staff).

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Call me crazy, but i think they actually are getting it right and canning those who didn't act proper (wether those individuals actions were due to ulterior motives or just plain negligence).


Well and the reality is Briles is the HC. Whether fairly or not, some of this falls under the HC especially if personnel on his staff (or himself) were entertaining alleged victims with faux investigations to keep up appearances.
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