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re: Boxing vs. MMA
Posted on 4/15/10 at 4:45 pm to Jamohn
Posted on 4/15/10 at 4:45 pm to Jamohn
quote:
Doesn't say anything about whose music is better.
ya, better is an opinion... more popular is probably not
data are probably skewed somewhat by internet users being younger tho... so maybe more will look at MMA than boxing even if the gap in viewership between teh sports is less or reversed in older demographics
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Posted on 4/15/10 at 4:49 pm to molsusports
Boxing is an art.
MMA is a blood sport.
MMA is a blood sport.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 4:57 pm to Solo
Re: blood sport comment - seems like an opinion
with the MMA rules in place now I think it's safer for the fighters in MMA than boxing... in boxing an over-matched opponent is pummeled for around ten rounds until he gives up... it's over much faster in MMA (and the net result IMO is less brain damage)
also an opinion on my part... but when you look at the 40 something MMA fighters and boxers side by side... the ones who can't speak clearly are the boxers (so I think it's a defensible opinion). Boxers have also died after fights or have to go to the hospital afterwards (e.g. recent roy jones fight where two over the hill boxers pound each others brains for the distance)
The more I think about it the more I think MMA is the safer sport
with the MMA rules in place now I think it's safer for the fighters in MMA than boxing... in boxing an over-matched opponent is pummeled for around ten rounds until he gives up... it's over much faster in MMA (and the net result IMO is less brain damage)
also an opinion on my part... but when you look at the 40 something MMA fighters and boxers side by side... the ones who can't speak clearly are the boxers (so I think it's a defensible opinion). Boxers have also died after fights or have to go to the hospital afterwards (e.g. recent roy jones fight where two over the hill boxers pound each others brains for the distance)
The more I think about it the more I think MMA is the safer sport
Posted on 4/15/10 at 5:40 pm to Jamohn
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I just prefer boxing's sweet science to homoerotic "grappling" displays by tattooed men in spandex.
This is such a stupid frickin argument. Its not even an argument, its just a bunch of douchebags trying to defend their dead sport, so they hurl some stupid fricking insult that makes no sense. So wrestling is gay? football is gay? a hard foul in basketball is gay? boxers leaning on each other when they are winded is gay? I fricking hate idiots like you that spew shite out of your mouth just because you heard some old racist, homophobic boxing promoter say the same bullshite.
MMA has obviously taken over.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 5:52 pm to LSUpsychWARD
quote:If you calm your crazy arse the frick down and pay attention to my posts here you'd know that I've been very fair to MMA throughout this thread and that comment was tongue-in-cheek in context.
LSUpsychWARD
quote:I have no idea who the frick you are but I'm guessing you're about to rip off your Affliction t-shirt and challenge me to a fight outside of Punchers? You seem like a total badass.
I fricking hate idiots like you that spew shite out of your mouth just because you heard some old racist, homophobic boxing promoter say the same bullshite.
This post was edited on 4/15/10 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 4/15/10 at 5:57 pm to Jamohn
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in boxing that the more skilled/better fighter will win. It takes sustained superiority over the course of a long bout. MMA fights lend themselves much more to flukey outcomes,
This is one reason boxing is better...less absurd and lucky fluke outcomes! Also, boxing takes endurance, strength, speed, skill, precision and is truly a science if you have ever done it. MMA is entertaining at times, but is really nothing more than a street fight where elbows, knees, almost anything goes. Boring is watching two guys lie on the floor wrestling around fighting for position for 2-3 minutes. I will take a 12 rouund prizefight, at the high level, any day over what UCF aired last week...that was a joke!
Posted on 4/15/10 at 6:10 pm to LSUgrasshopper
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I'm sure his huge chunk of M-1 global which is putting shows on both network TV and PPV are really nothing. That CBS prime time fight couldn't possibly have paid well
I am talking about money made by fighting
Posted on 4/15/10 at 6:19 pm to LSUgrasshopper
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MMA is winning because it's the sport that selling, not the stars. UFC 100 sold more because they stacked the entire card and made it a special event. It's not because when Brock fights people watch.
That statement by you proves you know nothing. Brock lesnar is the ONLY reason that 60% of those ppv buys happen . Look at the ufc 111. Those ppv numbers are terrible. It's not by coincidence that lesnar is the ufc's largest ppv draw. Why did Dana white sign a 43 yr old boxer in James Toney? Because their numbers are down. Take your blinders off.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 6:32 pm to LSUgrasshopper
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Lsugrasshopper
you must live in a bubble. Check out forbes magazine. De la hoya is worth more than Dana white and mayweather is valued the same as white. Mayweather and white both were estimated to be worth 150 mill a peice last time I checked. That's the owner of the biggest mma organization in the world. A boxer that fights twice a year at most is just as wealthy. That should show you who is king.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 6:49 pm to WHATDOINO
zuffa owns the ufc. dana white only owns a small portion of zuffa.
the fertittas are the real owners of the ufc. they are both billionaires.
the fertittas are the real owners of the ufc. they are both billionaires.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 6:53 pm to Jamohn
I do agree that boxing is an art. In an actual fight, the best mma fighters would dominate the best boxers at their respective weight classes.
Maybe boxers should be referred to as artists rather than fighters.
Maybe boxers should be referred to as artists rather than fighters.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 6:54 pm to plaxico
quote:
Posted by plaxico
zuffa owns the ufc. dana white only owns a small portion of zuffa.
the fertittas are the real owners of the ufc. they are both billionaires.
They were billionaires before the ufc. Dana white is the ufc. Stop trying to change the argument.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 6:59 pm to WHATDOINO
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They were billionaires before the ufc. Dana white is the ufc. Stop trying to change the argument.
i'm not trying to change the argument. stop trying to assert that the guy that owns 10 fricking percent of the ufc is the owner of the largest mma promotion in the world.
i don't really care either way.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 7:37 pm to LSUandAU
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MMA is entertaining at times, but is really nothing more than a street fight where elbows, knees, almost anything goes.
This board is getting dumber by the minute.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 7:41 pm to etm512
I like boxing significantly more, but I like MMA as well. There is nothing better in sports than a HUGE heavyweight championship fight... only problem is it really never happens anymore
I think its also fairly safe to say that many MMA fans would never be able to respect a truly great technical boxing match. Just like many boxing fans wouldn't really appreciate a bunch of technical ground work in MMA.
I think its also fairly safe to say that many MMA fans would never be able to respect a truly great technical boxing match. Just like many boxing fans wouldn't really appreciate a bunch of technical ground work in MMA.
This post was edited on 4/15/10 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 4/15/10 at 7:43 pm to aibo synthetic
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I do agree that boxing is an art. In an actual fight, the best mma fighters would dominate the best boxers at their respective weight classes.
I think this completely depends on how they would fight...chuck liddell or any of the other so called "great punchers" in MMA aren't beating any elite boxers in stand up
Posted on 4/15/10 at 7:48 pm to aibo synthetic
quote:Boxing is a "sport." It's not "actual fighting." Neither is MMA really, although it is closer. They are both sports w/ rules and criteria to determine a winner. The "who can kick whose arse" argument is totally pointless and irrelevant. Just like arguing whether a football player can kick a baseball player's arse.
I do agree that boxing is an art. In an actual fight, the best mma fighters would dominate the best boxers at their respective weight classes.
Posted on 4/15/10 at 8:47 pm to St Augustine
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I think its also fairly safe to say that many MMA fans would never be able to respect a truly great technical boxing match. Just like many boxing fans wouldn't really appreciate a bunch of technical ground work in MMA.
Not true at all. I believe both can coexist and I actually wish that boxing would come back to its "glory days". The problem is that the sport is so riddled with corruption that I am not sure it can recover a majority of its lost fan base.
Also boxing's appeal to the casual fan only goes as far as the HW division will take it. And as said before that division has been shite for some time now.
Posted on 4/16/10 at 7:59 am to Jamohn
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The "who can kick whose arse" argument is totally pointless and irrelevant.
of course it is. Well except that this was the premise under which the UFC was started.
quote:
Just like arguing whether a football player can kick a baseball player's arse.
really?
Posted on 4/16/10 at 8:05 am to aibo synthetic
quote:Again, how does the fact that the average UFC guy can kick the average boxer's arse in a street fight have anything to do w/ which of the two sports is more entertaining to fans?
of course it is. Well except that this was the premise under which the UFC was started.
quote:Yes, really.
really?
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