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re: Bruce Bowens top 5 pgs...just showed on SC
Posted on 6/1/10 at 3:17 pm to 1ranter1
Posted on 6/1/10 at 3:17 pm to 1ranter1
quote:I agree bc Rondo would be an easy guard for Kobe. He can play off of him bc he doesn't have to worry about him hitting outside shots. Allen can shoot over Fischer, but Fischer is pretty crafty and can crowd him to make Allen uncomfortable.
Kobe will play Rondo, Fish will play Allen. And it won't have anything to do with Rondo, Kobe can't be chasing Allen around 3 screens every time down the floor.
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Posted on 6/1/10 at 3:18 pm to tubucoco
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but if they do that then Allen will isolate himself with Fisher by posting him up
Fish was on Allen for a lot of the first game they played. Allen went 2-10 with 7 points. 0-6 from 3.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 3:19 pm to TGHub
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I agree bc Rondo would be an easy guard for Kobe. He can play off of him bc he doesn't have to worry about him hitting outside shots. Allen can shoot over Fischer, but Fischer is pretty crafty and can crowd him to make Allen uncomfortable.
Despite his lack of anything resembling an outside shot, Rondo's not an easy guard for anyone.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 3:19 pm to TGHub
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I agree bc Rondo would be an easy guard for Kobe. He can play off of him bc he doesn't have to worry about him hitting outside shots
I didn't watch either of the Boston/LA games, but according to ESPN's scouting department Rondo abused Kobe in the game in LA. Phil actually called the team's defense on Rondo, when Kobe was the primary defender, out after the game.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 3:21 pm to 1ranter1
Allen has been on a roll these playoffs shooting the ball, it wouldn't be nothing for him to turn at 6'6" and shoot over 6'0" Fisher, and Allen has been more physical lately I've noticed.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 3:21 pm to TulaneTigerFan
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I didn't watch either of the Boston/LA games, but according to ESPN's scouting department Rondo abused Kobe in the game in LA. Phil actually called the team's defense on Rondo, when Kobe was the primary defender, out after the game.
this does not surprise me. Rondo is too fast for Kobe at this stage in his career.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 3:22 pm to LSU Fan 90812
I should have said an easier guard than having to chase Allen all night. You're right in Rondo isn't an easy guard for anyone, but Kobe is an elite defender when he needs to be.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 3:27 pm to TGHub
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I should have said an easier guard than having to chase Allen all night. You're right in Rondo isn't an easy guard for anyone, but Kobe is an elite defender when he needs to be.
Kobe doesn't have that much problem guarding Ray Allen. it's not as bad as chasing Rip Hamilton circa 2004 or anything. The thing with Ray is if Kobe closes out on the 3 and gets beat, Ray isn't as creative a finisher or passer in the lane as Rondo, and doesn't do it as quickly which will give helpside some time to rotate.
I see a steady diet of Fisher on Rondo, saving Kobe's legs for offense (which will be more important that they can score on the celtics). Pau struggles with Garnett. KG is pretty much the perfect foil for Gasol's game, someone just as quick he is who is a stronger and longer.
Fisher on Rondo, with Artest or Lamar doubling or switching on pick and rolls. Steady diet of we'll let Rondo dribble around or shoot (Rondo won't) as much as you want, but we're not letting you get into the lane.
their ability to keep him out of the lane will say a lot about this series.
This post was edited on 6/1/10 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 6/1/10 at 3:31 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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I see a steady diet of Fisher on Rondo, saving Kobe's legs for offense
If you want to save somebody's legs for offense, you do not put them on Ray Allen.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 3:32 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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But now with two major injuries in his career
besides his knee this year, what was his other serious injury?
ETA: and for people saying Rondo is some great rebounder compared to Paul, get a clue.
This post was edited on 6/1/10 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 6/1/10 at 3:34 pm to el tigre
quote:I see what you're saying. But earlier, I think the question you were asking was a one-game scenario. The Jordan comparison was an extreme example to illustrate the concept.
but for Paul this has been more than a month long problem. Also, Paul does not have the previous sample size of dominance of Jordan. not even close. I am not looking at health on a daily basis, as this is a majority of the season issue, and it involves knee surgery....so it's not a straw man at all in this case esp if you are picking a player for today, and it's not even one if you are picking one for opening night next season.
I agree that there are some questions regarding if Paul will ever return to his form 2 years ago because of the problems that karma mentioned about his knee surgery. And if your question now becomes a full-season, franchise-building question then I understand the consideration.
But I think Rondo isn't close to Paul if he is healthy. Some in this thread seem to be making this comparison and I just find it offensive. Paul at 100% of his form to years ago is easily the best point guard in the league, an MVP, and one of the greatest PGs of all time. Paul in his current "gimpy" state is less than or equal to Williams and Nash and STILL way ahead of Rondo.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 3:55 pm to Jamohn
The thing to not lose sight of or put too much emphasis on is that rondo us GREAT on this celtics team. There are few places where he could be as successful.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 4:00 pm to Lester Earl
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besides his knee this year, what was his other serious injury?
sprained his pussy against Denver last year.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 4:03 pm to el tigre
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El Tig
what do you have against the man? hell, West and Chandler were the pussies for letting Denver rough up their PG.This post was edited on 6/1/10 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 6/1/10 at 4:10 pm to TulaneTigerFan
I thought Kobe only played in the game at Boston. He was injured for the home game.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 4:10 pm to tubucoco
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hell, West and Chandler were the pussies for letting Denver rough up their PG.
agreed. For all of the mean mugging West does he didn't do shite when he should have.
i think Paul is an absolute stud, just uncertain about his health.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 4:15 pm to TotesMcGotes
You are correct, must have been the game in Boston. Or maybe even a game last season. I read an article on ESPN over the weekend that discussed the difficulties that LA has had with Rondo, even with Kobe guarding him.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 4:17 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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Both healthy?
YES!! Rondo is that good.
Posted on 6/1/10 at 4:21 pm to TulaneTigerFan
It was the game in Boston, my b
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After the teams’ Jan. 31 meeting, the Lakers’ inability to contain Rajon Rondo was a concern. ESPN Los Angeles columnist Dave McMenamin wrote, “Quick, penetrating guards make the Lakers' defense fold faster than a Texas hold 'em player who draws a 2-4 unsuited.” And L.A. coach Phil Jackson said Rondo “literally changed the ballgame in a matter of about four minutes” in the second quarter.
Rondo helped erase a 13-point Lakers lead in the blink of an eye with his at-will penetration. Rondo, who finished with 21 points, 12 assists, 5 rebounds and 2 steals, was covered primarily by Bryant rather than 35-year-old L.A. point guard Fisher, though Jackson made a point of blaming the whole team’s defense for letting Rondo run wild.
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Posted on 6/1/10 at 4:26 pm to dukke v
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YES!! Rondo is that good.
why doesnt he play this good for 82 games then?
and no doubt he'll rape Derek Fisher for 6 or 7 games, and idiots like you will be labeling him the best PG in the league
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