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CBS NBA Staff votes Top 25 players of the 21st century
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:55 am
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:55 am
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1. Lebron James
2. Steph Curry
3. Tim Duncan
4. Nikola Jokic
5. Shaquille O'Neal
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Giannis
8. Kevin Durant
9. Kevin Garnett
10. Dirk Nowitzki
11. D-Wade
12. Chris Paul
13. Kawhi Leonard
14. Steve Nash
15. James HardLn
16. Luka Doncic
17. Jason Kidd
18. Dwight Howard
19. Anthony Davis
20. Allen Iverson
21. Tracy McGrady
22. Damian Lillard
23. Jayson Tatum
24. SGA
25. Russell Westbrook
1. Lebron James
2. Steph Curry
3. Tim Duncan
4. Nikola Jokic
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This one is sure to spark some controversy, but I stand in full support of the cumulative findings of this poll -- Nikola Jokic is a better basketball player now than Shaquille O'Neal ever was. That's not a knock on Shaq, an obvious all-time great and the next guy on this list. Jokic is just another level in terms of everything he brings and overall impact. Five straight years Jokic has finished either first or second in MVP voting; he won three of them and has been the best player in the world, unequivocally, for the last half decade. The championship he won with the Nuggets, sans a single All-Star teammate, is a greater accomplishment than any championship Shaq ever won alongside Kobe Bryant or Dwyane Wade. By the time Jokic's career is over, he will be largely regarded as the greatest big man to ever play.
5. Shaquille O'Neal
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Giannis
8. Kevin Durant
9. Kevin Garnett
10. Dirk Nowitzki
11. D-Wade
12. Chris Paul
13. Kawhi Leonard
14. Steve Nash
15. James HardLn
16. Luka Doncic
17. Jason Kidd
18. Dwight Howard
19. Anthony Davis
20. Allen Iverson
21. Tracy McGrady
22. Damian Lillard
23. Jayson Tatum
24. SGA
25. Russell Westbrook
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:16 pm to Frac the world
Paul Pierce is going to be furious
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:22 pm to Frac the world
Giannis too high.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:26 pm to Frac the world
Giannis over KD? Nahhhh
Kawhi too high as well.
Westbrook too low.
Kawhi too high as well.
Westbrook too low.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:32 pm to Frac the world
Shaq should be higher than Duncan and Jokic.
Dude was finals MVP for the entirety of the 3-peat.
Sure Jokic is a more complete player (probably the most complete player the game has ever seen), but there has never been a more dominant player than prime Shaq this century.
Dude was finals MVP for the entirety of the 3-peat.
Sure Jokic is a more complete player (probably the most complete player the game has ever seen), but there has never been a more dominant player than prime Shaq this century.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:46 pm to Frac the world
Kobe at 6 makes the entire list invalid. I regret opening this thread.
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:47 pm to Tarpon08
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Kobe at 6 makes the entire list invalid. I regret opening this thread.
Who would you put him ahead of, and be serious.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:52 pm to sorantable
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Who would you put him ahead of, and be serious.
Above Duncan and in a debate with Curry.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:53 pm to Tarpon08
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Above Duncan and in a debate with Curry.
You have Kobe above Shaq?
Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:57 pm to Broski
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You have Kobe above Shaq?
Sure do. I say that as an LSU fan and I hate the Lakers.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:10 pm to Tarpon08
I absolutely despise the Lakers as well, but there's zero chance Kobe belongs outside the top 3.
The #1 spot comes down to which attribute you value more:
Lebron - Longevity
Steph - Scoring
Kobe - Mentality/Effort
The #1 spot comes down to which attribute you value more:
Lebron - Longevity
Steph - Scoring
Kobe - Mentality/Effort
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:12 pm to Broski
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but there has never been a more dominant player than prime Shaq this century.
Not according to the advanced analytics.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:26 pm to Frac the world
List is shite
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:36 pm to Frac the world
Horrendous list.
Iverson is a top 5 player this century. Period. Him being behind guys like Nash, Davis, Leonard, Doncic...etc, is criminal.
edit: top 5 HAS to be some variation of Kobe, LeBron, Shaq, Iverson, and Duncan. Its a lot of great players, but those 5 are not era dependent like many on this list.
Jokic would get abused on the defensive side of the floor playing against the centers of the 90s, for example.
Iverson is a top 5 player this century. Period. Him being behind guys like Nash, Davis, Leonard, Doncic...etc, is criminal.
edit: top 5 HAS to be some variation of Kobe, LeBron, Shaq, Iverson, and Duncan. Its a lot of great players, but those 5 are not era dependent like many on this list.
Jokic would get abused on the defensive side of the floor playing against the centers of the 90s, for example.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 8/20/25 at 2:22 pm to VaBamaMan
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Jokic would get abused on the defensive side of the floor playing against the centers of the 90s, for example.
Hakeem and Robinson are the only ones he wouldn't make look foolish when they're trying to guard him.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:05 pm to Frac the world
Lebron at 1 is a no brainer.
#2-6 is a tossup between Duncan, Shaq, Steph and Kobe. I'm fine with Steph at 2, but I can't get behind jokic being ahead of those other guys.
#2-6 is a tossup between Duncan, Shaq, Steph and Kobe. I'm fine with Steph at 2, but I can't get behind jokic being ahead of those other guys.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:35 pm to Frac the world
No Carmelo? List is shite.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:51 pm to VaBamaMan
quote:The list doesn't count the 90s
Jokic would get abused on the defensive side of the floor playing against the centers of the 90s, for example.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:53 pm to Frac the world
I have LeBron at 6 at best.
Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:56 pm to Gravitiger
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The list doesn't count the 90s
nope, but my point was that the top 5 I listed would be era proof. Obviously Jokic would be fine offensively in any era, but he would struggle on defense against the hyper athletic bigs of the 90s. He's not even a great defender now.
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