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Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91491 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:00 pm to
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think this year gives a good argument for not expanding. The top 3 teams are so separated from the other top 8, it really doesn’t make for a competitive playoff.


It's one year. The #4 seed has already won twice.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59090 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:04 pm to
64 team playoff is clearly the answer
Posted by LSU Bayou Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
681 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:05 pm to
The college football playoff have nothing to do with the reason why the bowl games are suffering a decline in attendance. It's the fact that for the past several seasons a lot of the players expecting to be drafted aren't playing in the bowl games anymore. As the bowl games are being rendered irrelevant because of it.

I mean how many starters on UGA's team didn't play in that bowl game? Something like 12 of them?
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59090 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:07 pm to
I would love for you to tell me what the sugerbowl turnout would have been if there was no playoff
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10766 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:10 pm to
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It's one year. The #4 seed has already won twice.




almost every year, the complaints are that there are a lot of blowouts in the playoffs.
there has been at least one 30 point arse whipping in first round every year except 2017 season. Bama beating Clemson by 16 was the biggest margin that year.

now imagine if the 1 or 2 seed was playing someone even shittier once we expand.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:19 pm to
Attendance is dropping across the board it seems, people have better options now to watch sports in general. Especially in non ideal climate conditions or when both fan bases have to travel really far to attend.

Why does a 4 team playoff hurt any more than a 2 team playoff? The Orange Bowl didn’t really matter before if the Sugar or Rose were hosting the championship
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112684 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:50 pm to
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It appears the current 4-team playoff system has made all but TWO bowl games so irrelevant that attendance has plummeted. This year’s Sugar Bowl barely drew 55,000
Can you explain how that Sugar Bowl would have been any more meaningful if we didn't have a playoff and utilized the BCS?
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9489 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:07 pm to
I’ve come around to a 16 team playoff. It’s inevitable. People arguing that 4 teams is already not competitive enough, while that may be true, North Dakota St has won 7 Out of the last 8 titles (most likely 8/9 in a few days) in the FCS and yet nobody is calling to shrink the FCS playoffs. Go to 16 teams. All Confernce Champions and use the same committee to select the remaining at large teams. Make the first rounds home games, then make final 4 games the Rose, Sugar, Cotton and Orange Bowls. I don’t know if there is any real fix to bowl game attendance other than making far far far less expensive.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:11 pm to
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North Dakota St has won 7 Out of the last 8 titles (most likely 8/9 in a few days) in the FCS and yet nobody is calling to shrink the FCS playoffs.

I think that’s mostly because no one has any clue really
How often do they talk about the FCS playoff?
Not often
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9489 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:20 pm to
I was just making the point that nobody complains that the 1st rounds of the FCS playoffs have blowouts, yet we aren’t advocating shrinking the FCS playoffs because of that. People aregue against going to 16 teams in the FBS because of blowouts. Who cares?
Posted by luckylefty
new orleans
Member since May 2009
2727 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:28 pm to
Bowl games ruined bowl games.

When Taxslayer gets one demand drops.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

I was just making the point that nobody complains that the 1st rounds of the FCS playoffs have blowouts, yet we aren’t advocating shrinking the FCS playoffs because of that. People aregue against going to 16 teams in the FBS because of blowouts. Who cares?

Exactly because no one cares
No one has any clue that there’s blow outs
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34919 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:36 pm to
Making a BCS bowl meant something big for your program. It was the mark of a great season in that era because the national title slots were limited and somewhat arbitrary.

We went from 10 teams having a good season (four BCS games plus the title game) to 4 teams having a good season.

The BCS level bowls really suffered a reputation hit in the playoff era.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91491 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:43 pm to
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almost every year, the complaints are that there are a lot of blowouts in the playoffs.
there has been at least one 30 point arse whipping in first round every year except 2017 season. Bama beating Clemson by 16 was the biggest margin that year.

now imagine if the 1 or 2 seed was playing someone even shittier once we expand.


But it's not the 1 and 2 winning all the time.

Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:01 pm to
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We went from 10 teams having a good season (four BCS games plus the title game) to 4 teams having a good season.



in whose eyes.

You better like winning your conf champ game.
Posted by Drew Brews
SG·LA
Member since Feb 2018
1958 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:03 pm to
Lot of valid reasons for poor bowl game attendance in here, but I think the main reason is just that everything is expensive as shite these days. Me and the SO went to the Peach and now going to the Natty, and it's just dumb how much it's ran us. By the time you get a hotel, eat, and drink it's just painful. As much as I enjoy it it's never something we'll do on a regular basis.
Posted by Vestigial Morgan
Member since Apr 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:06 pm to
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I’m sure there were lots of empty seats at the Orange, Citrus, Cotton, etc. I don’t have an answer.



The Citrus was close to 95% full...pretty good crowd but then again it had two heavy weights. One being fairly regional and the other - enormous. Saw a good amount of UF fans as well there to support SEC and give their UM friends some grief.

Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
7064 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 3:52 am to
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Think 32 team seeded playoff using bowls as regional sites may be only answer.


I don't think LSU beating the shite out of Air Force is the answer.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14878 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 6:26 am to
It turned 1 meaningful game into 3
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 6:33 am to
People who post topics with the subject COMPLETELY IN CAPS LOCK always lose me. Only PJ can do this and get away with it.
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