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re: Did Rocky Marciano make Jersey Joe Quit?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:07 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:07 am to Draconian Sanctions
Louis IMO was at worst either No. 1 or No. 2 all time but there’s no need insulting Rocky who’s an all-time great and could’ve beaten anyone on a given day. Rocky’s like Nolan Ryan, so many revisionists have hollered that he’s overrated to the point that he’s now underrated.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 9:08 am
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:12 am to InkStainedWretch
Watching another video on him. Frazier used ALOT of his boxing techniques. Ali had mucho respect for him.
Prime Foreman and Prime Rock, damn. That would be a show, a short show, but a show.
Prime Foreman and Prime Rock, damn. That would be a show, a short show, but a show.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:14 am to prplhze2000
How about prime Liston and prime Rocky?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:25 am to 308
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Louis was way past his prime when he fought Marciano.
Joe Louis had most of his money stolen from him by promoters and managers. If you think it's bad now, back then, it was nothing but robbery. He was already an old man and came out of retirement to try and pay his debts.
Rocky Marciano was a champ at a time when the heavyweights didn't have a great group of fighters. I would have loved to see him fight Sonny Liston. Rocky was only 31 when he retired and Sonny would have been that fighter that would have been his real mega-fight. Never happened.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:43 am to InkStainedWretch
Rocky's knockout of Jersey Joe in the first fight is probably the most famous knockout in boxing history. It happened quickly and violently and made a huge impact on the legacy of Marciano. If he had won by tko it would not have been such a legendary bout.
I am big fan of these past champions and I agree with the poster above, if Louis and Marciano met in their respective primes I would bet on Louis. What a fight it would be, Rocky had incredible stamina and always went into the ring in tip top shape. Louis sometimes spent a little too much time with the ladies before his bouts...and he still won just about every time.
I am big fan of these past champions and I agree with the poster above, if Louis and Marciano met in their respective primes I would bet on Louis. What a fight it would be, Rocky had incredible stamina and always went into the ring in tip top shape. Louis sometimes spent a little too much time with the ladies before his bouts...and he still won just about every time.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:54 am to InkStainedWretch
Louis didn’t do well with fighters that crowded him. I’m not sure Louis would ever beat Marciano and I think Jack Dempsey would likely knock him out also. Louis liked to be able to control the distance between him and his opponent. He wouldn’t be able to do that with a swarmer with savage power. Marciano was slow. Dempsey had foot and handspeed along with savage power. Speed kills. In any era.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 9:55 am
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:16 am to ronricks
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Louis didn’t do well with fighters that crowded him. I’m not sure Louis would ever beat Marciano and I think Jack Dempsey would likely knock him out also
Joe Louis ate up everybody that stood in front of him. That would have exposed them to his power. It was the distance that gave him some trouble. But not much. Good lord, he could hit with anyone. He was called "the Brown Bomber" for a reason.
He shouldn't have been fighting Rocky. Joe Louis won the heavyweight championship in 1937. That's 1937 dude. He kept the title until 1949.
Joe Louis successfully defended his title 25 times, more than any other champion in any division, scoring 21 knockouts. The only reason he didn't defend his title, even more, was that he went into the army during World War 2 (his service in the U.S. Army from 1942 to 1945.
No one should ever gloss over Joe Louis's career. He was and will continue to be an all-time great fighter, who, unlike Rocky, had plenty of mega fights.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:21 am to bamameister
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Joe Louis ate up everybody that stood in front of him
You seem to not understand what crowding and getting inside vs standing in front of someone is. They are totally different things. Crowding is being in his chest so Louis can’t get off. Louis himself stated he did not like this. It takes a certain kind of skill set to do this. Not every fighter can do it. Marciano could do it but was very slow so would have to take punches coming in. Dempsey could do this. Mike Tyson could do this. Frazier could do this but like Marciano would have to take punches to get inside. Louis would have trouble with all those guys for that reason alone. He didn’t like it.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 10:24 am
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:57 am to Jack Ruby
Ken Norton got fricked up
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:10 pm to ronricks
He didn’t like it but he dealt with it. On my own ATG list I have Ali 1 and Louis 2 and I have Rocky 5, which means they all could’ve beaten each other on a given day.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:48 pm to InkStainedWretch
Marciano was 190 pounds. He'd be a cruiserweight today.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:12 pm to TigerintheNO
and what happened to Ali's jaw?
Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:10 pm to prplhze2000
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See Mike Weaver's KO of John Tate
I remember watching that fight and that last second KO by Weaver came out of nowhere.
Tate face-planted and they could have used a sundial to count him out.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:38 pm to Jack Ruby
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Hearns vs Duran
I'm a big Duran fan and even I knew he was taking a huge risk fighting the much taller, hard hitting Hearns.
Even though Hearns had shown a bit of a fragile chin against good punchers in his career, I knew if Duran couldn't get to him, it would be a tough fight for him to win.
That KO sounded like a gunshot when Tommy connected.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 4:07 pm to gumbo2176
He was asleep. Seriously
Posted on 5/28/23 at 7:14 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Marciano was 190 pounds.
Yeah but half of that weight was in his fists.
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:24 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Modern nutrition and training, he's probably over 200
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:25 pm to InkStainedWretch
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Perhaps he could’ve gotten up, but Joe was 39 years old, he had his money and his wits, he’d probably shot whatever was left of his wad in the first fight that was a classic, and he decided that was enough of letting Marciano beat on him. Something anyone who questions his heart never had to experience.
He was wise. He realized that he was in a fight that he could not win. His instinct to fight rose him to his feet, but, fortunately, the Count was already Ten.
It was a good decision based on an accurate assessment of the certain outcome should the fight continue.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 2:07 am to gumbo2176
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I'm a big Duran fan and even I knew he was taking a huge risk fighting the much taller, hard hitting Hearns.
Even though Hearns had shown a bit of a fragile chin against good punchers in his career, I knew if Duran couldn't get to him, it would be a tough fight for him to win.
That KO sounded like a gunshot when Tommy connected.
Duran was 10 yrs older than Hearns at 35 in that fight, but it didn't matter. Hearns at that point in his career and Duran even in his absolute prime had no chance in that fight. It was just an absolute destruction of a fight, similar to Frazier vs Foreman... The matchup was the worst possible for the loser.
Whats amazing though is that even after that absolute brutal KO punch by Hearns, Duran was still conscious on the mat and was actually trying to get up, albeit while he was absolutely in another planet, but his reflex was to try to get up. Unbelievably tough fighter.
You could tell how much respect he had for Hearns, even while he was getting destroyed almost from the opening bell. Hearns also clearly had massive respect for Duran.
Posted on 5/29/23 at 6:49 am to Jack Ruby
What’s even more amazing is after that brutal KO Duran was able to come back and beat Iran Barkley for the WBC Middleweight title. Duran was a tough hombre.
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