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re: How long until Cal ends its athletic department?
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:07 pm to BranchDawg
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:07 pm to BranchDawg
Marshawn Lynch, Shane Vereen, and CJ Anderson were all starting RBs for Super Bowl winners in the 2010s.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:13 pm to KosmoCramer
I remember reading that a few years ago, Cal's athletic department was $300M in the hole. Their massive renovations were criticized by many since their the program was so weak.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:27 pm to POTUS2024
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I remember reading that a few years ago, Cal's athletic department was $300M in the hole. Their massive renovations were criticized by many since their the program was so weak.
I think the B1G would take Stanford 100% but they need a partner that's not Cal. There's a reason the leak that B1G would take Stanford with Notre Dame makes sense, and it's not the obvious Notre Dame part.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:54 pm to KosmoCramer
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I think the B1G would take Stanford 100% but they need a partner that's not Cal. There's a reason the leak that B1G would take Stanford with Notre Dame makes sense, and it's not the obvious Notre Dame part.
I could see Cal and Stanford going the independent route should they not be extended an invite to the B1G; but the question is, once we see what’s to become of the ACC—whether they get raided, implode altogether, or actually build upon their current membership—how much longer is independent status going to matter from a competitive standpoint (I.e., how long until conference affiliation is required to compete for a national title)?
I know Stanford and Cal won’t care, but there’s more money to be made as a conference member, regardless of which one. Only ND would be able to swing a TV deal as an independent, but I could see the B1G and SEC bullying networks into cutting ND out somehow, essentially forcing them to join a conference.
The ACC is more than likely going to implode. They’re not in a position to raid any other conferences on the same tier, and much like the PAC-12, once you’ve lost your meat and potatoes, there’s no value in adding a bunch of schools like Coastal Carolina, Marshall, and East Carolina.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:55 pm to KosmoCramer
For a school that “does not care” about athletics, how in the world did they get so much athletics debt??
Posted on 8/5/23 at 10:00 pm to KosmoCramer
What about Cal’s alumni? It is a prestigious university and should have donors with deep pockets that can erase the stadium debt.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 10:09 pm to Sofaking2
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What about Cal’s alumni? It is a prestigious university and should have donors with deep pockets that can erase the stadium debt.
They don't seem to care about athletics on a large scale. They seem to want to care or some obviously do since they convinced the brass to redo the stadium, but they've been teetering in peril for a while now. I think their baseball team almost went under a few years back?
Posted on 8/5/23 at 10:47 pm to KosmoCramer
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I think their baseball team almost went under a few years back?
Pretty sure they had to raise a hell of a lot of money to keep it afloat.
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Didn’t realize they raised enough money prior to the CWS—I thought their appearance in Omaha reignited interest in keeping it around, but there were alumni and even people from Stanford and other schools donating money.
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 8/6/23 at 12:26 am to brad8504
Cal will not end its athletic department any time soon. There is an enormous amount of money in the alumni ranks, such that spending a half a billion dollars to renovate the stadium 10 years ago could happen, along with establishment of a robust NIL collective, and other things. That said, the money aint' flowing unless and until the administration in general, and the Athletic Department in particular recognize the reality check they just got. Supporting 28 non-revenue generating sports will no longer cut it. The same goes for Stanford. Both thought they could rely on academics alone and bled their football budgets to support the other sports, particularly for women and olympic sports. They now know otherwise and that is a good thing. There are moves afoot from the moneyed alums to rectify the situation.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:33 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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They’ll drop down to something like the NAIA and the academic administration there will rejoice
Pretty sure you can't have 45,000 enrollment and be NAIA.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 7:25 am to Tugboat78
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That said, the money aint' flowing unless and until the administration in general, and the Athletic Department in particular recognize the reality check they just got. Supporting 28 non-revenue generating sports will no longer cut it. The same goes for Stanford. Both thought they could rely on academics alone and bled their football budgets to support the other sports, particularly for women and olympic sports. They now know otherwise and that is a good thing. There are moves afoot from the moneyed alums to rectify the situation.
I'd be surprised if they accepted this reality. Cutting women's sports for football isn't going to fly in Berkeley, will it?
Will the DIVERSITY-EQUITY-INCLUSION crowd allow that to happen quietly?
Doesn't matter what big money wants when the activist student body gets going.
Also, ask Miami about the state of their athletics under Donna Shalala, who I'd imagine, was far less radical than anything Berkeley could have.
You can want to build, but the politics of the administration, and the state that funds the university, will put up as many road blocks as possible.
Very similar to African nations, you can air drop all the food and supplies in the world, but the political gatekeepers will ensure the resources are never distributed properly.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 7:32 am
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