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re: I'll take peak Curry over peak Lebron
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:04 pm to PortCityTiger24
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:04 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:Why would that make one a douchebag. Any fanbase would be mad
but I am willing to bet your pussy arse was one of the many Ohio douchebags here bashing him for bailing to Miami.
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:14 pm to buckeye_vol
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Then ask a more precise questions.
When dealing with you in the future, I will make sure I ask a more precise questions, whatever that means. Context is not one of your strong points. You are trying to turn the thread into something it was not intended to be...Notice the title: I'll take peak Curry over peak Lebron. It wasn't "Peak Curry is a better overall player than peak Lebron". I admitted that Lebron is the better overall player. Your entire premise stems from a lack of comprehension but like you've stated, I need to dumb it down for you (which is ironic considering you're basically saying the same thing about me).
If you want to know why, read the first few pages. I expressed why I prefer Curry. I have never argued that Lebron would be better suited at carrying a shitty team, that isn't what this is about.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:22 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:I'll admit, if your premise is that you'll take the inferior player A compared to the better player B, you're definitely going to need to dumb it down for me as I don't understand the logic of not choosing the better player.
Notice the title: I'll take peak Curry over peak Lebron. It wasn't "Peak Curry is a better overall player than peak Lebron". I admitted that Lebron is the better overall player. Your entire premise stems from a lack of comprehension but like you've stated, I need to dumb it down for you (which is ironic considering you're basically saying the same thing about me).
Guilty as charged.
quote:Those arguments seemed to insinuate the reasons why you thought he was better, not the reasons why you thought he was not as good, but you still wanted him.
read the first few pages. I expressed why I prefer Curry
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:25 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:I noticed this. I'm just not sure what Westbrook's head hanging had to do with it.
Notice the title: I'll take peak Curry over peak Lebron.
quote:So your argument is that you would choose the lesser player? That's logical.
I admitted that Lebron is the better overall player. Y
quote:So your argument is that you would choose player B, even though he's not as good as player A (in their peaks) because of the irrelevant bits of information, and it's my lack of comprehension that's the problem? Maybe you should worry about your own logical inconsistency before "dumbing it down."
Your entire premise stems from a lack of comprehension but like you've stated, I need to dumb it down for you
quote:And clearly you want to base it more on mysticism than rationality. That's fine, but if you're going to post something like that, don't be surprised when it's countered with facts.
If you want to know why, read the first few pages. I expressed why I prefer Curry.
BUT the Westbrook comment was just absurd, regardless of the context.
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:28 pm to shel311
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I'll admit, if your premise is that you'll take the inferior player A compared to the better player B, you're definitely going to need to dumb it down for me as I don't understand the logic of not choosing the better player.
That's if there's some wide space between them...there's not. I concede that Lebron is better "all around" but feel more comfortable in finding guys to take on things Curry lacks that Lebron does. I think what Curry can do is more unique. I would rather have peak Curry than peak Lebron.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:30 pm to PortCityTiger24
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That's if there's some wide space between them...there's not. I concede that Lebron is better "all around" but feel more comfortable in finding guys to take on things Curry lacks that Lebron does. I think what Curry can do is more unique. I would rather have peak Curry than peak Lebron.
Ok, I'd prefer the better player.
quote:But what's the point if those things, in your opinion, don't make him the better player?
but feel more comfortable in finding guys to take on things Curry lacks that Lebron does. I think what Curry can do is more unique.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:36 pm to shel311
I'd probably take Lebron, but I don't see why it's so absurd to take Steph over Lebron with the simple fact that he's so dangerous at the three point line. I think that's very valuable coming down to the end of big games. We're really getting to the point of splitting hairs here though. They're both great players that give you different things. One person may value crazy three point shooting over Lebron's overall game. It's just an opinion.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:36 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:This would make a sense if basketball is a single skill sport. Sure maybe Steph's best skill is better than LeBron's best skill, but it requires a combination of skills. Steph had that, it's just not to the degree that LeBron does. Besides, do you also feel that way about the other great shooters (Reggie, Ray Allen, etc.)? Maybe you just have a bias for that particular skill.
but feel more comfortable in finding guys to take on things Curry lacks that Lebron does.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:37 pm to Smoke7024
quote:If we're debating Steph today vs Lebron today, I basically agree with everything you've said.
I'd probably take Lebron, but I don't see why it's so absurd to take Steph over Lebron with the simple fact that he's so dangerous at the three point line. I think that's very valuable coming down to the end of big games. We're really getting to the point of splitting hairs here though. They're both great players that give you different things. One person may value crazy three point shooting over Lebron's overall game. It's just an opinion.
But if it's Steph today vs peak Miami Lebron, I do think there's a large enough difference that it's not splitting hairs. I'd say comparing them offensively is mostly splitting hairs but as I've said before, the difference defensively is more than enough to make it a pretty decided advantage for Lebron IMO
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:42 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:I really feel like this being your main argument is killing your lagitimacy. That's no different than me saying, "I think Lebron is better, I mean, DO YOU EVEN SEE HIM DOING THINGS?! It's awesome!"
I don't care if Lebron grabs a few more rebounds or is a better defender, Curry rips the heart out of anyone defending him
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:46 pm to buckeye_vol
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teph had that, it's just not to the degree that LeBron does. Besides, do you also feel that way about the other great shooters (Reggie, Ray Allen, etc.)? Maybe you just have a bias for that particular skill.
Dude, which of those guys were simultaneously the best ball handler in the league? If you're viewing Curry as a Reggie Miller / Ray Allen type, that's part of the problem.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:48 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:He's not, he was asking if you liked those guys maybe more than the normal person to see if maybe you're predispositioned to prefer the skill of shooting.
Dude, which of those guys were simultaneously the best ball handler in the league? If you're viewing Curry as a Reggie Miller / Ray Allen type, that's part of the problem.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:51 pm to ReauxlTide222
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I really feel like this being your main argument is killing your lagitimacy. That's no different than me saying, "I think Lebron is better, I mean, DO YOU EVEN SEE HIM DOING THINGS?! It's awesome!"
It's not my "main" argument...but it's certainly one of them and I am not shying away from the fact that no one in the league is better that getting their shot off despite being seemingly guarded perfectly than Curry. That is devastating, you see it time after time. I don't know why you're quick to dismiss it. I haven't (won't) take the time to quantify how him making a contested 3 effects a game but I am sure someone could if that's all we care about is putting a number on it.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:53 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:My question is, as many reasons as you've given for the importance of his 3pt skill being the reason you'd take him, you've also conceded it doesn't make him the better player, so why would you take him, if that skill doesn't trump the rest of the players' skillset so that you still think Lebron is the better player?
It's not my "main" argument...but it's certainly one of them and I am not shying away from the fact that no one in the league is better that getting their shot off despite being seemingly guarded perfectly than Curry. That is devastating, you see it time after time. I don't know why you're quick to dismiss it. I haven't (won't) take the time to quantify how him making a contested 3 effects a game but I am sure someone could if that's all we care about is putting a number on it.
It seems the value you place on that skillset would have you think Curry is also the better player, no?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:57 pm to shel311
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He's not, he was asking if you liked those guys maybe more than the normal person to see if maybe you're predispositioned to prefer the skill of shooting.
It's not simply "the skill of shooting" though. None of those guys were known for there handles or getting their shot off at will. Ray Allen was a great scorer in his prime but he's still a guy that will be remembered, like Reggie as a catch and shoot guy. Curry has the best handles and the league. He's the best in the league at getting his shot off. He too has a great basketball IQ and is an elite playmaker. Those are the skills I value when looking at him...I'm not looking at a dude who is simply a good shooter.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 4:07 pm to shel311
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My question is, as many reasons as you've given for the importance of his 3pt skill being the reason you'd take him
I am just as impressed with his ability to get his shot off on anyone, along with his elite handles. Who has better handles than him? All time, who has better handles than him?
quote:
ou've also conceded it doesn't make him the better player
Better *all around player.
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so why would you take him, if that skill doesn't trump the rest of the players' skillset so that you still think Lebron is the better player?
Those* skills make him more valuable, IMO. Both are once in a lifetime type players so I am not going to sit here and shite on Lebron saying I can easily replicate what he does, but I prefer someone like Curry who in my mind is the ultimate offensive weapon - unlimited range, elite passing, can get his shot off on anyone, anywhere, best handles in the league, finishes like a big at the rim, no slouch on D, not to mention by all accounts a great teammate and leader. No better "closer" in the league. I would rather have Curry.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 4:08 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I grew up a little over 2 hours from Cleveland. Don't question my fandom 
Posted on 5/31/16 at 4:10 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:Me too............
I grew up a little over 2 hours from Cleveland.
by plane
Posted on 5/31/16 at 4:13 pm to lsupride87
Exactly 
Posted on 5/31/16 at 4:15 pm to PortCityTiger24
quote:So then you clearly see that having more skills makes a player more valuable. I agree with this, but I think it's contradicting your argument even more. Otherwise, why would you value a more complete skillset, then argue against a player that has an even MORE complete skillset. It seems like you're just picking and choosing Steph's strengths, and devaluaing the skills that LeBron has the advantage. This is not know evident then "I don't care if he grabs a few more rebounds and plays better defense."
It's not simply "the skill of shooting" though. None of those guys were known for there handles or getting their shot off at will. Ray Allen was a great scorer in his prime but he's still a guy that will be remembered, like Reggie as a catch and shoot guy. Curry has the best handles and the league. He's the best in the league at getting his shot off. He too has a great basketball IQ and is an elite playmaker. Those are the skills I value when looking at him...I'm not looking at a dude who is simply a good shooter
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