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re: I'll take peak Curry over peak Lebron
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:45 am to therick711
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:45 am to therick711
quote:He was 1-3 from 3 and scored 9 pts that game
If you don't know why, maybe THIS can explain it to you.
That was his point. Ray wasnt that great anymore
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:46 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:
So taking that team to the Finals might be the single greatest individual accomplishment in NBA playoff history. That Pistons team was great, that was their 5th consecutive ECF appearence with two Finals appearences behind them. Curry couldn't take that bunch to the Finals.
It isn't even the greatest individual accomplishment in the Eastern Conference since 2000.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:48 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:
Can you even name another player on the 2007 Cavaliers team that won the Eastern Conference?
I'm a pretty big NBA buff and I could only think of three without looking it up. That team started Drew fricking Gooden, it was easily the worst conference champion in NBA history.
Gibson
Illgauskas
Marshall
Hughes
Snow
Varejao
Pavovlic
Newble
That was off the top of my head.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:48 am to WestCoastAg
quote:Not peak Lebron.
Curry is basically playing as well as LeBron ever has
Unless you don't want to factor in defense.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:49 am to shel311
quote:In his own post he will say
Unless you don't want to factor in defense.
"Not counting defense....."
Well, why wouldnt we count 50% of the game?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:50 am to lsupride87
quote:
He was 1-3 from 3 and scored 9 pts that game
And kept them from losing the series because, until Steph, he was the best shooter the NBA has ever known.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:53 am to lsupride87
Well I'd probably take peak Lebron, but I've seen posts in this thread about throwing out Curry's three point shooting. That makes no sense.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:55 am to RonBurgundy
quote:Salty.
I guess the WCF finals didnt interest you
They certainly did, I was wrong.
Now go ahead and tell me more about harden as a 6th man and that oh so good discussion about Curry or Iverson...
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:58 am to WestCoastAg
quote:Better post, this one or the other guy saying Steph doesn't have good handles and isn't good at the rim?
Yes, he was a top player in the NBA but he wasn't top 5
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:59 am to therick711
quote:He wasnt that great that series at all. Im sorry.
And kept them from losing the series because, until Steph, he was the best shooter the NBA has ever known.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:02 am to lsupride87
quote:
He wasnt that great that series at all. Im sorry.
Nothing to be sorry about. When your sixth best guy is Ray Allen, your team is pretty fricking loaded. For their pace and space scheme, the 20 minutes Ray gave them were extraordinarily valuable. Also, when they needed him to hit a three, he did the job that no one on their team could have done except for maybe Chalmers. We speak about Ray because without him Lebron would only have one title.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:03 am to therick711
quote:And without Chalmers he has only 1 title. And without Battier he has only 1 title. Who cares?
We speak about Ray because without him Lebron would only have one title.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:04 am to shel311
He wasn't. His metrics don't point to it. He absolutely was in 2009, but not in 2007
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 9:04 am
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:04 am to lsupride87
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And without Chalmers he has only 1 title. And without Battier he has only 1 title. Who cares?
The people asking why Ray Allen is relevant to the discussion. Did you not read the whole thread or do you have trouble associating cause and effect? Also, LOL at the comment on Battier.
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 9:05 am
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:05 am to therick711
quote:Because you keep saying that like it was prime Ray Allen.
When your sixth best guy is Ray Allen, your team is pretty fricking loaded
That title season in the playoffs he averaged 10 ppg on 41% from 3. Yes, a very solid contribution off the bench. But it's also something a bunch of other guys could have done about the same that you wouldn't give much credit to because they weren't prime Ray Allen, which was irrelevant to 2013.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:07 am to shel311
quote:
That title season in the playoffs he averaged 10 ppg on 41% from 3. Yes, a very solid contribution off the bench. But it's also something a bunch of other guys could have done about the same that you wouldn't give much credit to because they weren't prime Ray Allen, which was irrelevant to 2013.
So he was 15th in the league in TP% and you are arguing that that production could have come from any other player? Right. Good deal. I'm glad to see everyone is knocking them in at 41% clip in the league.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:08 am to therick711
quote:
We speak about Ray because without him Lebron would only have one title.
That may be true when you talk about that very moment, but you still needed a Game 7 to win it, and I'm pretty sure that Allen put up a goose egg that game.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:09 am to c on z
quote:
That may be true when you talk about that very moment, but you still needed a Game 7 to win it, and I'm pretty sure that Allen put up a goose egg that game.
If they lost game 6, the Spurs win the title. There is no tomorrow unless Ray Allen does what he does. Ray Allen's gift was the game 7. If you listen to interviews with the big 3 about it, there is no equivocation on what the most pivotal moment in that series is and who was responsible for it. I'll take it from the horses mouths.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:14 am to therick711
quote:Martell Webster played almost the exact same amount of minutes per game that season.
So he was 15th in the league in TP% and you are arguing that that production could have come from any other player? Right. Good deal. I'm glad to see everyone is knocking them in at 41% clip in the league.
Averaged more ppg, had a higher 3pt%, and a higher TS% than Ray Allen in 2013.
That's just facts, nothing else.
Ray Allen being elite a few years before is irrelevant to 2013.
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 9:15 am
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:22 am to shel311
Yep. One outlier season by Martell Webster proves my point.
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