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Posted on 1/28/19 at 11:51 am to
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 11:51 am to
Maybe but it's great to cash in.

3 good Lakers and 2 firsts does it for me.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3688 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 11:52 am to
He is a very talented and fun player to watch. He is probably the best PF in league currently. His talent and athleticism are not in dispute. But as of now, I don't think it is as big of a loss for the Pelicans as I would have 3 years ago. He is hurt a great deal and he lacks the desire to be the BMOC. Fetch something good for him now and it will be a win-win for all parties.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22110 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 11:56 am to
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watch when he gets Bos or LA, he'll magically never be injured again


I would bet a paycheck on it. Pels medical staff can only be incompetent or apathetic at this point. No other explanation.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 11:56 am to
Lol
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30050 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:09 pm to
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Both are irrelevant in the NBA, in fact in the long term it’s better to suck that to be an 8 seed every year and get swept in the first round If you have a competent GM that is.


The Twolves finished first in the west. They simply couldn't win in the playoffs for whatever reason.

The Pels haven't sucked, they were mediocre, which is the worst thing you can be. If you're not going to make the playoffs, then yeah, suck it up so you can get a good draft pick. Not making the playoffs and picking 18th doesn't really help anything.
Posted by Reda LSU
Los Angeles
Member since Jan 2013
4230 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:20 pm to
Seeingg Pels fans calling AD overrated is so funny to watch. If they were trading for a player of AD's caliber, they would be preaching his name from N.O to Shreveport.

now that he wants out because his coach is incompetent, doesn't want to play for a small market nba team, and has no other superstars in a league which is super-team run, he wants to win. N.O. has had 6-7 years to provide him with talent which they've failed to do.

AD will go win wherever he goes and the Pels will get some solid talent in a trade.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:36 pm to
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Is Anthony Davis overrated?
I mean top 5 NBA players don’t have losing records or consistently miss the playoffs do they? Plus the dude is always hurt.

Is a team about to overpay for this guy?


He's one of the greatest players to ever play the game, theres nothing he can't do on the basketball court and he's a proven winner, however what's occurred this season thus far has quite annoyed me with how he's conducted or perceived to have conducted himself from a leadership standpoint
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:36 pm to
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Is Anthony Davis overrated?


amazing player? yes


overrated? frick yes


Top 5 players can carry their team a good ways. he cant carry shite and is always hurt. see finger..........
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64247 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:37 pm to
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Seeingg Pels fans calling AD overrated is so funny to watch. If they were trading for a player of AD's caliber, they would be preaching his name from N.O to Shreveport.



Same guys who rail on James HardWn 24/7/365.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30050 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:38 pm to
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Seeingg Pels fans calling AD overrated is so funny to watch. If they were trading for a player of AD's caliber, they would be preaching his name from N.O to Shreveport.


It's not that he's overrated, he's just not a top 5 player in the league, like others that haven't watched him play more than 10 or so games thinks he is.

I'm sure he will go win wherever he goes. Doesn't change the fact that he can't lead a team to victory on his own, which is something you'd expect from a supposed top 5 player.

Of course the Pels didn't do a good job with him. They hired a proven loser for HC, and never put wing players around him that complemented AD's skills, but regardless, if he was truly a great player, top 5 player, the Pels wouldn't have had 5 losing seasons in the 7 years he was here.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74125 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:22 pm to
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Go take a look at what Garnett did, as a kid, with his second best player being Terrell Brandon or Wally Szerbiak.


Garnett had success in an era dominated by post players. Stupid comparison. AD would be a multiple MVP guy in that era

AD is properly rated. If he was given any semblance of a decent roster, his history in Nola would be different

He got here post CP3 trade, which Eric Gordon was supposed to be the centerpiece. Hurt and ineffective during his nola tenure.

Trade for jrue, who is hampered by injuries his first three years in Nola

Now Eric Gordon and jrue are supposed to be your pieces next to AD. They can’t stay on the floor for 3-4 seasons next to AD . Now Ryan Anderson and tyreke evans becomes your guys

Add complimentary pieces in the draft? Nope. 1.10 Austin Rivers, nope. Buddy goes out in Cousins deal. Trade picks to cover holes in injury, crap laden roster.

Omer Asik, Solomon Hill, ajinca contracts

Not dealing Ryan Anderson or Gordon and just letting their contracts expire

Cousins ACL

AD will win a title of two as soon as he gets out of Nola. The haul he brings with 1 year of control will tell you how overrated he is
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30050 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:40 pm to
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Garnett had success in an era dominated by post players. Stupid comparison. AD would be a multiple MVP guy in that era




AD wouldn't play half a season in that era b/c he'd be hurt constantly. He's also too scared to play against opposing teams center.


The fact of the matter is Garnett had shitty teams and was routinely winning 50 games. They got to the WCF and took the Lakers to 6 games without their PG or his backup, and had Garnett running point forward.

Dirk had the Mavs winning 50+ after his 3rd year in the league. Yeah he had Steve Nash the first few years, that helps. After Nash left, his 2nd best player was Jason Terry, and the only other guys that were worth a shite were Josh Howard and old arse Jerry Stackhouse, and they won 60+ and made it to the Finals.

a good season for AD is finishing 34-48.


It doesn't matter what era you play in, if you're a true superstar player, MVP caliber player, you don't lead your team to losing records 5 out of 7 season.
Posted by Ghazi
Dallas Mavs 2011 NBA Champions
Member since Dec 2007
16121 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:43 pm to
KG was considered "not a winner" until 2008 and Dirk until 2011 tbh.

AD is still young so it is possible he can enhance his legacy.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74125 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 2:01 pm to
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AD wouldn't play half a season in that era b/c he'd be hurt constantly. He's also too scared to play against opposing teams center


ok

Can’t argue with ”muh era” guy

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It doesn't matter what era you play in, if you're a true superstar player, MVP caliber player, you don't lead your team to losing records 5 out of 7 season


This is a painfully ignorant take

At the turn of the century, the pacers led the league in 3P with 583. Golden State just made 1256 last year. Steph has made 400 in a season alone. There aren’t many players whose talent transcends eras as it pertains to being mvp caliber and being able to carry a team

Ball back then was facilitated through the post. Your mvps were dominated by bigs in Malone 2x, Duncan 2x, shaq, Garnett, dirk with Jordan iverson and Nash sprinkled in

I assume you’ve watched the pelicans over the years?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59879 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 2:13 pm to
He is def not a “proven winner” and that’s why he’s not in tier one of nba players. Guys who will lead their squad to the postseason every year no matter who the teammates are.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128654 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 2:16 pm to
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Seeingg Pels fans calling AD overrated is so funny to watch


Well that isn't really happening a lot so...
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 2:19 pm to
I think Lakers fans are melting harder than Pelicans fans at this point. They won't even have basketball decisions to cry about this time around.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 2:27 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 2:22 pm to
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He is def not a “proven winner” and that’s why he’s not in tier one of nba players. Guys who will lead their squad to the postseason every year no matter who the teammates are.


Led UK to their only title of the Cal Era and led one of the worst-run franchises in the league to multiple playoff berths as the alpha in an incredibly difficult conference to achieve anything in, we'll have to agree to disagree here dude clearly knows how to win just his perceived application of that knowledge appears to lack in some respects
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59879 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 2:23 pm to
Kentucky was so stacked they could’ve won that title without him even being on the team.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 2:26 pm to
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multiple playoff berths


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