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Posted on 3/15/22 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 4:28 pm to
Hard to say he doesn’t win in the playoffs when he consistently advances more than any other player. he wins when he has the better team, and loses when his help doesn’t show up, all the while being the best overall player in nearly every series.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 4:33 pm to
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And twice as many 4th quarter disappearing acts as both of them combined.


Only elite of the elite have 3 2/11 playoff games
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 4:34 pm to
Yea it didn’t “matter” when they were down 0-2 and he dropped 40 both games to tie it up.. It didn’t “matter” in game 5 when he was 10/16 for 31 pts 8 assists. the cherry pickers have to pick and choose what games “matter” where the rest of us don’t. If he played like Steph and Steph played like him it was gonna be GSW in 4.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 4:36 pm
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 4:34 pm to
no, he is who he is. hate him or love him, he is who he is.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 4:36 pm to
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Oh it means everything. true shooting is a predictor of offensive Effiiciency and winning.




Factually incorrect.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 4:37 pm
Posted by justice
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 6:20 pm to
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he wins when he has the better team, and loses when his help doesn’t show up
lol
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 6:28 pm to
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he wins when he has the better team, and loses when his help doesn’t show up


Hasn’t he totally No showed in multiple win or go home games? It’s possible I misremembered.

Regardless, a guy like Dirk is miles better in his career than James. I think Dirk is probably a top 30 guy.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 6:34 pm to
Harden has better playoff stats than Dirk. The year dirk won the title he got a better performance out of Jason Terry than harden ever got out of CP or Russ. Not to mention Dirk lost to an 8 seed as a 1 seed. HRden lost to a lower seed once. It was the warriors.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 6:41 pm to
Depends, what's his rating?
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 6:43 pm to
Just a couple of weeks ago Zach Lowe did a deep dive watching games and digging into playoff Harden.

He couldn't believe it, it was worse than he thought or even imagined.

Oof
Posted by 21JumpStreet
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 6:46 pm to
I wonder if guys in this thread thinks guys like Ray Allen and Reggie Miller were better or not
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 6:47 pm to
He cherry picks what games are important. Just like you. Down 0-2, down 1-3, up 3-1.. not important. They don’t fit the agenda. You gotta seek out the bad games, then find some kinda funny business to include them. It is Intellectual dishonesty at its finest.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 6:50 pm to
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Harden has better playoff stats than Dirk. The year dirk won the title he got a better performance out of Jason Terry than harden ever got out of CP or Russ. Not to mention Dirk lost to an 8 seed as a 1 seed. HRden lost to a lower seed once. It was the warriors.


Which one has a ring? And which one won the H2H on the way to said ring?
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 6:57 pm to
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is Intellectual dishonesty at its finest.


Jim having 3 2/11 games is dishonest.
Posted by Crow Pie
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:05 pm to
Does anyone know if Harden's stats go up or down in the Finals versus the playoffs leading up the the Finals? That would be telling.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:14 pm to
His regular season BPM Is like 8th all time playoff BPM 13th all time.

Regular season PER is around 11th, playoff PER is around 20th

So it goes down some but still all time elite.

A lot of that is due to competition. The fella earlier posted somehting about McGrady. Well McGrady never made it out of rd 1 so his whole playoff career was v rd 1 opponents. Never had a knock ‘em out drag em out conference championship series. So he obviously had much softer competition that what any of the guys who have gone deep in the playoff have faced. It’s Always helpful to add context.
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:16 pm to
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Harden


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Finals


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