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Posted on 11/12/23 at 11:25 pm to
Posted by BayouTigers225
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 11:25 pm to
ok do Jayden Daniels 3 bad games
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 11:39 pm to
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ok do Jayden Daniels 3 bad games
Jayden hasn’t had a bad game, particularly after the FSU game, and at this pace, he should win the Heisman going away.

I think Marv should win the Biletnikoff at this pace though. I guess I was more defending him on the argument that he shouldn’t even be in the top 3 in the Biletnikoff, which is just stupid.
This post was edited on 11/12/23 at 11:41 pm
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
11326 posts
Posted on 11/12/23 at 11:41 pm to
Jayden Daniels stats will get a lot more absurd after next week. To compare stats between the QBs is what should matter. Daniels should win this going away.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 11:43 pm to
Crazy that Vegas has JD5 at +700. Could Vegas be that wrong??
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 12:33 am to
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I think Marv should win the Biletnikoff at this pace though. I guess I was more defending him on the argument that he shouldn’t even be in the top 3 in the Biletnikoff, which is just stupid.


Harrison and Nabers are the best receivers in this class.
Posted by RealSECKicker
Member since Aug 2023
297 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 12:35 am to
Penix is winning the Heisman.

Leads the nation in passing and has an undefeated team that could be PAC champs.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16778 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 1:04 am to
Bo Nix +110
Penix +280
JD5 +460
Harrison +480

JD5 was +700 this morning. So he's gaining ground. Nix was -115.
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 3:55 am to
You're probably right, but there is no way Nix is better than JD.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:09 am to
Has he attempted 1st degree murder yet, like his pop?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:17 am to
Posted by Rabbs and QStick
Texas
Member since Apr 2012
3016 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:28 am to
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JJ wasn’t a better prospect than them?


Not really. He was relatively under the radar until his last year. He was a 3 star recruit if I remember correctly.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25200 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:41 am to
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Jayden Daniels stats will get a lot more absurd after next week. To compare stats between the QBs is what should matter. Daniels should win this going away.



Everyone hates how it's a QB award until their QB is one of the guys in the running.

Harrison is #2 in the country in receiving TDs and is 7th in receiving yards. More TDs than Nabers and more yards than Thomas. They are both incredible players but Daniels is the "straw that stirs that drink" as they always say.

I have no problem with Daniels winning it, but there's no reason MH can't and shouldn't be in NYC for the ceremony. He's incredible and has been for two years now.
Posted by Mike the Tiger 1999
Weston, Florida
Member since Jul 2009
2309 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:50 am to
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Nix is having a terrific season on a terrific team. If he continues to play well and they win the PAC 12, I doubt Nix will be denied.
sounds like Mr Nix is a shoe-in for the Oregon Team MVP and PAC 12 POY awards. that doesn’t mean he is the best CFB player in America… he isn’t even the top QB in the PAC 12.

media hype might have won him the Heisman if he played at USC or a CFB blue blood, but I can’t see him being voted Heisman winner jmo
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13937 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:53 am to
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Everyone hates how it's a QB award until their QB is one of the guys in the running.


While this is true, stop trying to create a false narrative… People hate how it’s a ‘the best QB on the best team award’


Daniels deserves the heisman 1000%
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25200 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:54 am to
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doesn’t mean he is the best CFB player in America


The best OT can never win the award, neither can the best DE or DT.

So it's obvious it isn't the best player every year. It's the best offensive skill guy.

Daniels has been great, but so has Nix. Nix is completing 78% of his passes for the year. 29/2 TD to INT.

I think Daniels has a really good shot, but his team does have 3 Ls which counts to some degree. USC kind of did this last year. Their defense was terrible and Williams put up video game numbers every game to win.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25200 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:58 am to
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While this is true, stop trying to create a false narrative


You can't say it's "true" then say I'm creating a "false" narrative.

Tebow wasn't the best QB on the best team. Williams wasn't last year.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
32866 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:12 am to
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He's +480 on FanDuel, Daniels is +460.

Daniels is Under +400 at most spots now and Harrison is going in the opposite direction. Like I said, its a three man race and really two between Nix (my pick months ago) and Daniels.

Harrison shouldn't even be the favorite to win the Biletnikoff
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 8:15 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:27 am to
Posted by BayouTigers225
Member since Oct 2023
293 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:30 am to
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agree he shouldn’t be a heisman contender, but to say he isn’t the best WR in the country is asinine. He’s the best WR in CFB since Jamarr Chase. He’s a generational talent.
who’s gonna tell him
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25200 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:39 am to
I’m gonna tell him the Harrison is a better prospect than Chase.

Chase sat out a season and has quit in him
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