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re: johnson to sue USC
Posted on 1/5/10 at 11:43 am to Brad Ferro
Posted on 1/5/10 at 11:43 am to Brad Ferro
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if you cannot handle the weight you are lifting and you don't have a designated spotter then you are just stupid.
That part is USC's responsibility.
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Posted on 1/5/10 at 11:43 am to Brad Ferro
I hear that. It's just a bad situation all around.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 11:45 am to DestrehanTiger
Why couldn't Johnson be responsible for himself?
Posted on 1/5/10 at 11:46 am to Chad504boy
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There was a spotter but I don't believe he was properly spotting. I think he was "near" but not standing over him is what I recall... I don't blame this lawsuit, i'd sue the frick out the school for this too, he should have died.
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I'm sorry, but the responsibility falls solely on the University....not Johnson's idiocy.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 11:47 am to The Cable Guy
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Why couldn't Johnson be responsible for himself?
It's a USC sanctioned workout. I assume they have a program for him. He is doing the workout they instructed him to do. To insure his safety, they should provide the means for having a proper spotter.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 11:47 am to Brad Ferro
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i lift weights.
Im glad....otherwise your punch wouldnt have hurt snookie nearly as much!
Posted on 1/5/10 at 11:48 am to lsu480
ha! that bitch had it coming. nobody gets in Brad Ferro's face and remains standing.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 11:49 am to DestrehanTiger
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It's a USC sanctioned workout. I assume they have a program for him. He is doing the workout they instructed him to do. To insure his safety, they should provide the means for having a proper spotter.
What he said
Posted on 1/5/10 at 11:53 am to Toula
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There was obviously some form of negligence,
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On Johnson?
That will be the rub at trial i.e. whether or not Johnson was contributorily negligent.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 11:57 am to LSUnowhas2
The spotter was negligible. End of story IMO. And if the equipment was sub par or added to the hazard, that only helps the case IMO. This dude was a bonified NFL RB prospect... now who knows.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 11:57 am to DestrehanTiger
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It's a USC sanctioned workout. I assume they have a program for him. He is doing the workout they instructed him to do. To insure his safety, they should provide the means for having a proper spotter.
These guys are all 18 and above and I do agree it would be nice if there were these great standards and rules in every gym, but who really follows them? Take some responsibility, it was a freak accident. If it was USC's faulty equipment, then USC is responsible. It's laughable that people are clamoring in his defense.
It sucks it happened but to sue a university for an accident that he essentially created? Give me a break, this is what's wrong with a lot of society. Yippee Let's Sue!
Posted on 1/5/10 at 11:58 am to Chad504boy
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The spotter was negligible
Was the spotter a USC employee or a player? If it's a coach, I think that makes Johnson's case look a lot better. If it was a player, I don't really think it helps or hurts.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 11:59 am to The Cable Guy
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Take some responsibility, it was a freak accident. If it was USC's faulty equipment, then USC is responsible. It's laughable that people are clamoring in his defense.
It sucks it happened but to sue a university for an accident that he essentially created? Give me a break, this is what's wrong with a lot of society. Yippee Let's Sue!
Your arse would be sueing too especially with a multi million dollar potential career on the line. To say otherwise is a blatant lie.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 11:59 am to DestrehanTiger
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Was the spotter a USC employee or a player?
I know it's not a player. Some type of coach or strength training guy.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 12:00 pm to The Cable Guy
Is it Johnson's fault that USC had him doing a dangerous type of workout without proper spotting? If he did the gorilla grip on his own, that's one thing. If they instructed him to do the gorilla grip, that's USC's fault.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 12:00 pm to Klaus
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There was obviously some form of negligence, and he nearly died from it
exactly.
I have been waiting for him to sue since the incident. I think he has a case.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 12:01 pm to Klaus
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i had never heard of someone dropping a weight bar on their neck until him.
it happens all the time. Google it.
Results from monkey gripping rather than C gripping.
I've done it, but wasn't hurt as the bar landed on my chest and bounced. And in high school so only 135 on the bar
and if the spotter was standing over him in proper position with total concentration on stafon, he Still couldn't have stopped 300 pounds in free fall from crushing him.
Spotters job is not to catch free falling weight, but to assist on struggling lifts, and react as fast as possible to a catastrophic failure. He did that.
A spotter is not to touch the bar at all until he feels the lifter needs an assist.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 12:03 pm to DestrehanTiger
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If he did the gorilla grip on his own, that's one thing. If they instructed him to do the gorilla grip, that's USC's fault.
this is the key, imo.
Was he properly instructed to use a traditional "C" grip and chose to ignore the instructions? If so, should a staff person have had time to tell him to change his grip?
eta: some places even make guys wrap when going with the gorilla grip.
This post was edited on 1/5/10 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 1/5/10 at 12:06 pm to KBeezy
The bottom line is that if you were an nfl prospect at a school like USC and this incident happened to you the year before you were going to enter the draft.........you would be seeking legal action as well. I am completely against frivolous lawsuits, but I think Johnson's case is legitimate.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 12:08 pm to Klaus
maybe the wear and tear on the bars had no traction left. Maybe thats leading to the faulty equipment. In any case, the spotter wasn't there over him spotting him. That's negligence no matter how you slice and dice this.
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