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re: LHSAA Truth in Numbers
Posted on 6/11/16 at 10:43 am to GhostofJackson
Posted on 6/11/16 at 10:43 am to GhostofJackson
Ghost I know a lot more abt high school sports than 90% of people on this board. I guarantee you 50% of HS school athletes couldn't tell you who is in their District if you asked them on the spot. If you think a kid in BR/ NO knows where Oak Grove/Lasalle/EastBeau/etc are located much less what Class they are in then you are wrong. A kid in Jonesvill has no idea abt how good Jesuit/Brother Martin/Rummel are and also has no idea where they are located.
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Posted on 6/11/16 at 11:22 am to PANTHER
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laying sports and having champions of the publics and some privstes leave? Those championships might be tarnished I the eyes of the new association but you know what the kids don't give a shite.
Every kid that will be able to leave public for private will leave ASAP. Family money, scholarship, vouchers, you name it - public schools will be hurt the most. From football to golf and all sport in between, public schools lose.
The big money sponsorships and support are already in the private court and the bigger public schools with good athletic programs want in with the privates.
Another posted put it well....the new league will be the SEC of the state while the old LHSAA will become the sunbelt.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 11:29 am to KillTheGophers
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Every kid that will be able to leave public for private will leave ASAP. Family money, scholarship, vouchers, you name it - public schools will be hurt the most. From football to golf and all sport in between, public schools lose
That won't be many. Most that want to be at a private school and can offered it are already there.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 11:33 am to GGShin
So now you are an authority on what HS kids know and don't know? And you use made of stats to support your dubious claims? Got it
Posted on 6/11/16 at 11:33 am to PANTHER
This is a game of chess...and LHSAA does not even realize that they have lost.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 11:50 am to supatigah
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So now you are an authority on what HS kids know and don't know? And you use made of stats to support your dubious claims? Got it
Dude can't even keep his story straight. First, kids aren't smart enough to know who they have to beat for district titles, second they don't know about some random district and who is in it. Doesn't even make sense. He's also smarter than 90% of people on this board when it comes to hs sports. I wonder if that means he's smarter than 90% in this thread, since it probably only have people who are interested in high school sports to begin with to click on the link.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 12:09 pm to KillTheGophers
That doesn't matter. Don't you realize there will still be public high school sports with championships. It seems in your eyes and many others that those will be tarnished. For the schools that win them and the towns that support the schools those champions will be celebrated as much as the privates celebrate their's.
I apologize if I misread your intentions
I apologize if I misread your intentions
Posted on 6/11/16 at 12:12 pm to PANTHER
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That doesn't matter. Don't you realize there will still be public high school sports with championships. It seems in your eyes and many others that those will be tarnished. For the schools that win them and the towns that support the schools those champions will be celebrated as much as the privates celebrate their's.
I apologize if I misread your intentions
There's a reason the SEC gets more exposure than the Sun Belt. Sure, the respective schools will care equally and maybe the local papers will give equal coverage, but in the grand scheme of things the league where the talent lies is more respected.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 12:19 pm to KillTheGophers
Posted on 6/11/16 at 12:26 pm to lsu31always
The funny thing is the select school supporters are always railing against "watered down competition"but when the split happened I'm pretty sure the selects fought pretty hard not to reduce the number of select classes to come more in line with the number f schools.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 12:49 pm to Methuselah
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The funny thing is the select school supporters are always railing against "watered down competition"but when the split happened I'm pretty sure the selects fought pretty hard not to reduce the number of select classes to come more in line with the number f schools.
You'll have to cite that please. The argument of keeping 4 classes was size. The disparity is huge. Jesuit has 1200 kids, Shaw has 450, and they are in the same 5A district. The 3A schools with only 300 boys did not want to have to compete with them because it was going to be a losing uphill battle. There possibly could have been some better consolidation in 1A and 2A but since everything was thrusted on the privates last minute, so there wasn't exactly a ton of time to prepare.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 1:21 pm to PANTHER
quote:and instead of playing a private school to see who's better and earn respect for it, you're gonna let it be decided in the field of public opinion, and in most cases, it won't be pretty.
For the schools that win them and the towns that support the schools those champions will be celebrated as much as the privates celebrate their's.
The LHSAA wants small public schools with small-town mentality, well that's what they're gonna get
This post was edited on 6/11/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 6/11/16 at 1:24 pm to GhostofJackson
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e with them because it was going to be a losing uphill battle
So, there are considerations of fairness and "losing uphill battles" in certain circumstances.
If the logic of the "everybody just wants a trophy" group is carried out to its logical conclusion, anything other than just one state championship for all schools no matter the size, public/private categorization, and anything else is just watering down the competition.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 1:35 pm to Methuselah
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So, there are considerations of fairness and "losing uphill battles" in certain circumstances.
What point are you trying to make? I guess minor league baseball, D2 sports, etc., don't deserve to be around either. It's perfectly okay to say that we don't want to play teams that have 4x our enrollment. I'm trying to wrap my head around how you could see that as an excuse akin to ducking competition.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 1:47 pm to Methuselah
In terms of fairness, what is fair abt schools with town populations like Many (2700), Bunkie (4,000), Winnfield (5800), Kinder (2500) with every single available kid going to their school having to play Privates in BR (230,000), NO (380,000), Shreveport (200,000), where the 2A schools in those places can choose who goes to school and can control their size??
Posted on 6/11/16 at 1:48 pm to GGShin
I just think we have too many champions. They need to consolidate the divisions. No more than 3 for non-select. No more than 2 for select. Also, select and non-select should not have to compete in the same divisions if they're not going to the same playoff bracket. They can be scheduled as out of division games. Unfortunately, that makes too much sense.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 1:58 pm to GGShin
Well there was an option for small publics to separate from small privates so your argument is invalid. They didn't even want that. Pretty soft IMO.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 2:46 pm to GhostofJackson
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You'll have to cite that please. The argument of keeping 4 classes was size. The disparity is huge. Jesuit has 1200 kids, Shaw has 450, and they are in the same 5A district. The 3A schools with only 300 boys did not want to have to compete with them because it was going to be a losing uphill battle.
Do you really deny that the private schools were against less classes for them after the split? Or you're just trying to be difficult? Because I definitely remember reading that after the vote to split. But I'd rather not spend several hours trying to track it down on Google.
It seems to me after following this for years that most people from both sides just can't see past their own positions to even acknowledge that the other side has valid points.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 2:47 pm to GGShin
quote:In a perfect world, all the athletes in a big city would be in 5A schools and the 2A schools would have none, while the small town schools would have their athletes that would be in a 5A school in the cities...
In terms of fairness, what is fair abt schools with town populations like Many (2700), Bunkie (4,000), Winnfield (5800), Kinder (2500) with every single available kid going to their school having to play Privates in BR (230,000), NO (380,000), Shreveport (200,000), where the 2A schools in those places can choose who goes to school and can control their size??
Posted on 6/11/16 at 2:50 pm to Methuselah
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Do you really deny that the private schools were against less classes for them after the split?
You are obtuse man. There was discussion between 3 or 4 classes and it came down to the disparity in school size. Any other reason, please cite your sources or you are pulling stuff out of your butt just like Shin who hasn't come back to admit he was wrong when I pointed out the flaws in his last argument.
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