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Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:04 am to
The woman below Orr looks just as active in situation
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:09 am to
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He kicked a chair during the WVU game
Worse than pushing Jeff Orr.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49331 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:10 am to
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He didn't go into the stands to attack the a-hole.

He was there as a result of the play.

The a-hole insulted him. Smart, rightfully, pushed him.



That's an uncivilized way of thinking. Outside of an actual threat with action towards that threat, no speech is grounds for an assault and battery.

Not saying the fan is blameless, but Smart's actions were unreasonable and, technically, criminal.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:10 am to
are you ever going to provide evidence?
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:12 am to
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are you ever going to provide evidence?



"judge, I'd like to introduce the murder weapon into evidence"

"where is it?"

"go to the evidence vault and find it yourself, but I swear its in there"
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:12 am to
I'm not going to change her diaper for you, buddy. There's evidence in this very thread. Shut the frick up and quit asking the same thing over and over again.
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:12 am to
Watching the video he is getting up focused on the court and then immediately he turns around as if he heard something. At the same time you can see Jeff Orr leaning down and saying something. Smart was getting up to go back on the court. It's very Clear Orr made a comment and then smiled and tried to backtrack when Smart turned around.

Smart shouldn't have pushed him but at the same time POS like Orr should have their tickets taken away for life. You can heckle but when you start getting out of line the fan is at fault. He's had prior issues to boot, he flipped off the kid from Texas AM. Hell an Okie St player from the early 2000s has come out and said he remembers the guy and the horrible/ridiculous shite he would say.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138315 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:15 am to
Someone needs to screenshot the frame where smart is getting up and OSU teammate put hands up with "I'm not getting involved in this bullshite" motion
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:16 am to
So this dude told him to "Go back to Africa". Real classy
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:17 am to
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I absolutely support what Smart did.


Then, you are "absolutely" wrong.

When Smart walked to the stands and pushed the fan, whatever that fan had said became secondary to what Smart did. Smart had a number of options to make "fan" the issue, but what he did made him the issue.

Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:17 am to
just show us the evidence.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171959 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:18 am to
so you claim there's evidence yet get pissed when asked to present the evidence? lol
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:18 am to
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So this dude told him to "Go back to Africa". Real classy


are you reading lips? is this what caused him to push him?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112677 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:18 am to
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Then, you are "absolutely" wrong.

Nope.

quote:

When Smart walked to the stands and pushed the fan, whatever that fan had said became secondary to what Smart did. Smart had a number of options to make "fan" the issue, but what he did made him the issue
I'm not viewing this from what the school or conference should do to him.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:19 am to
I should clarify that it is rumored that Orr said that LINK.
Posted by LaFlyer
Member since Oct 2012
1043 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:20 am to
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trackfan

Marcus Smart fighting Texas Tech quote: How is this thread 20 pages?? Are people actually defending the player? Jay Bilas just said that if the fan really called Smart a n****r, he believes Smart was justified in going after him, and that there is a such thing as "fighting words". I'm not saying I agree with that, but there are no doubt many people out there who do.


No justification for it at all. Orr is a dirtbag, YouTube him and you will see, but invoking the Jeremy Hill defense is flat wrong. Smart is in college, it's a learning proces. He could of gone pro but opted to stay. There is something he wants and needs from the college experience, unfortunately this is a negative one for him, but good can come from it.
Once again a in the heat of battle mistake on the part of Smart should not be turned into anything else, especially in light of the fact that all we ever hear about is crowd noise, playing with emotion and all the sundry cliches. Smart got caught up in the emotion, mistake made. Lesson hopefully learned.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:20 am to
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You can heckle but when you start getting out of line the fan is at fault.


how do you know if he crossed the line from heckling?

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he flipped off the kid from Texas AM.


evidence of a flip?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49331 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:20 am to
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I'm not viewing this from what the school or conference should do to him.


It doesn't matter. Smart was wrong to physically retaliate.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:22 am to
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I should clarify that it is rumored that Orr said that LINK.


if that's the case then they should add an extra 2 games to Smart for lying.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11498 posts
Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:23 am to
lying about what?
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