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re: MLB batting avg .242
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:11 pm to InkStainedWretch
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:11 pm to InkStainedWretch
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The average age of baseball viewers on TV is 57. That’s not sustainable for the sport to have a future,
You have a point…. If it continuously goes up.
Spoiler alert: It hasn’t in decades.
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:12 pm to Dairy Sanders
You have a point too. But MLB wants it to go down.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:13 pm to PP7 for heisman
Easier to throw more heat when you are pitching less innings and throwing fewer pitches overall.
The rate of plate appearances that end in one of the three true outcomes is the worst part of baseball.
The rate of plate appearances that end in one of the three true outcomes is the worst part of baseball.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:15 pm to lsu xman
Home runs or bust. This game used to be so fun to watch.. a lot of the reason the avg. is so low is because the batters only see the same pitchers may twice in a game…. Makes a big difference.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:16 pm to DiamondDog
And again he was getting on base to a .421 clip striking out that much.
Reggie Jackson struck out more than anyone who ever lived but for much of his career he had a pretty solid OBP.
It was not home run or strikeout, nothing in between, for those guys.
Reggie Jackson struck out more than anyone who ever lived but for much of his career he had a pretty solid OBP.
It was not home run or strikeout, nothing in between, for those guys.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:19 pm to Dairy Sanders
quote:Yes, but guys are also learning how to pitch at levels we've never seen. I mean MLB teams didn't have pitching labs ~10 years ago. Now every single pitch is tracked to such an insane extent. Guys are learning how to throw harder and how to put more movement on their pitches.
Easier to throw more heat when you are pitching less innings and throwing fewer pitches overall.
It of course helps that bullpens are used more now than they were in the past. When you combine that with the increased talent, it makes hitting significantly more difficult.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:19 pm to InkStainedWretch
The problem is they keep listening to the idiots who tell them they need to market it like the NBA and put the focus on individual stars when that has been proven time and time again to be a failing model.
Market your teams. ALL of them. Engage more on social media, particularly on X and TikTok. There should be multiple baseball games each week that are live streamed on X. They need to take some cues from the Manning cast and have something similar for the games that air on X.
But before you worry about how to distribute your game you need to make sure your game is worth getting attention on. The way it’s played now is arse. The pitch clock has been great but the quality of play is very bland right now.
Market your teams. ALL of them. Engage more on social media, particularly on X and TikTok. There should be multiple baseball games each week that are live streamed on X. They need to take some cues from the Manning cast and have something similar for the games that air on X.
But before you worry about how to distribute your game you need to make sure your game is worth getting attention on. The way it’s played now is arse. The pitch clock has been great but the quality of play is very bland right now.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:19 pm to dukke v
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a lot of the reason the avg. is so low is because the batters only see the same pitchers may twice in a game
That’s why teams are doing what they’re doing with pitchers, it’s gone beyond babying their arms. They want to make sure batters are facing someone fresh and throwing a jillion mph with ungodly spin and rotation every time they go to the plate, whether fans find it entertaining or not.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:20 pm to Dairy Sanders
100% agree
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:22 pm to InkStainedWretch
I missed the days of pitchers throwing over 100 pitches a day every three days. Talk about batting records that will be hard to break, they have many pitching records that will never be touched the way the game is played now.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:23 pm to Dairy Sanders
quote:MLB's problem has been the opposite of this. They don't market their stars AT ALL. I get what you're saying in that you don't want people following players instead of team (like the NBA) but they've got to market their stars better.
The problem is they keep listening to the idiots who tell them they need to market it like the NBA and put the focus on individual stars when that has been proven time and time again to be a failing model.
quote:Unless Twitter pays the owners a shite ton of money, this isn't happening. There's a reason it doesn't happen in any sport.
There should be multiple baseball games each week that are live streamed on X.
quote:They interview literal players during games and people bitch about it. If anything, your average MLB broadcast is more similar to the manningcast than any other sport's main broadcast of a game. Already so much down time, conversation, and analysis in between plays/pitches.
They need to take some cues from the Manning cast and have something similar for the games that air on X.
quote:I think they're trying this by deadining the balls this year, but guys aren't adjusting to it by hitting for average and instead are just hitting 110+ mph fly outs.
But before you worry about how to distribute your game you need to make sure your game is worth getting attention on. The way it’s played now is arse. The pitch clock has been great but the quality of play is very bland right now.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:25 pm to PP7 for heisman
Meh.
Throwing harder but can’t locate for shite. That’s why careers are getting shorter and shorter for pitchers. 25 years ago it became clear that no pitcher 25 would make it to 300 wins. Now no one under 30 will make it to even 200 wins. Only 12 active pitches have 100 or more wins. The most current wins by an active pitcher under 30 is 65 and that guy is 29. That’s horrible.
When Verlander, Scherzer, and Kershaw retire it will be the end of the Ace era for MLB.
Throwing harder but can’t locate for shite. That’s why careers are getting shorter and shorter for pitchers. 25 years ago it became clear that no pitcher 25 would make it to 300 wins. Now no one under 30 will make it to even 200 wins. Only 12 active pitches have 100 or more wins. The most current wins by an active pitcher under 30 is 65 and that guy is 29. That’s horrible.
When Verlander, Scherzer, and Kershaw retire it will be the end of the Ace era for MLB.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:37 pm to PP7 for heisman
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MLB's problem has been the opposite of this. They don't market their stars AT ALL. I get what you're saying in that you don't want people following players instead of team (like the NBA) but they've got to market their stars better.
Naw. The players’ agents need to get them in commercials. MLB and its media partners need to market teams. Equipment providers can hype players. Players need to get their asses on social media and do their own legwork. They need to do podcasts and go on people’s shows to hype themselves up.
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Unless Twitter pays the owners a shite ton of money, this isn't happening. There's a reason it doesn't happen in any sport.
Pretty sure that the NBA already aired a game on some social media a few years ago, but anyways, yeah any company that wants to air sports content will have to pay for it. Not sure why you think that is some big hang up??
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They interview literal players during games and people bitch about it
Not the same as the Manningcast.
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If anything, your average MLB broadcast is more similar to the manningcast than any other sport's main broadcast of a game. Already so much down time, conversation, and analysis in between plays/pitches.
Need to bring in more guests during it. So many different ways you can go about it too. Watching a Cubs game? Hey Bill Murray or Zach Lavine or Caleb Williams pop in for an inning or two. Think outside of the box. Or just think period.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:38 pm to lsu xman
Just want to say there’s been some disagreements, which is fine, and I got a jillion downvotes on my first post, which I was expecting and is fine, I don’t take this stuff seriously enough to get bent out of shape about that. But there’s been some very good discussion by passionate baseball fans in this thread.
This post was edited on 7/6/24 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:43 pm to littleavery1948
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Goes to show that what Judge is doing is that much more impressive. Judge might slug 1.000 if he got to face the pitchers and defense that Bonds faced.
I know you’re a troll but don’t ever compare Barry Bonds to Judge.
Barry Bonds is the single best ball to bat player I’ve ever seen granted I’m young. But his pure skill was unmatched. I don’t care about roids. Dude never stepped out the box once in it and routinely turned on balls six inches inside. Also plate discipline was another level.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:43 pm to Dairy Sanders
quote:The numbers don't support this position at all. The walk rate for the last decade is better than it was the decade before that. Hovers around 3.1. Guys in general have more control today than they did in the past. They do hit batters at a slightly higher clip than the prior decade.
Throwing harder but can’t locate for shite.
quote:It's only a shame for people who put value on pitcher wins. Yeah it sucks the Cy Young winner won't be 25-3, but it's a generally meaningless stat.
25 years ago it became clear that no pitcher 25 would make it to 300 wins. Now no one under 30 will make it to even 200 wins. Only 12 active pitches have 100 or more wins. The most current wins by an active pitcher under 30 is 65 and that guy is 29. That’s horrible.
quote:For as much people love to over inflate Skenes (myself included) he may be one of the only true aces of this generation. Only way you can stay healthy doing what he does is if you're as big as him.
When Verlander, Scherzer, and Kershaw retire it will be the end of the Ace era for MLB.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:46 pm to Dairy Sanders
quote:Because twitter won't pay what ESPN and Fox pay for broadcasting rights. Just kind of wish casting something extremely unlikely imo
Pretty sure that the NBA already aired a game on some social media a few years ago, but anyways, yeah any company that wants to air sports content will have to pay for it. Not sure why you think that is some big hang up??
quote:I feel like local broadcasts do this much more often than national broadcasts. Either way it's an idea. I just don't think it moves the needle all that much. I don't know, I enjoy watching baseball. College baseball is more entertaining to me, but I don't know what else the MLB could do outside of materially changing the sport (that they haven't already done).
Need to bring in more guests during it. So many different ways you can go about it too. Watching a Cubs game? Hey Bill Murray or Zach Lavine or Caleb Williams pop in for an inning or two. Think outside of the box. Or just think period.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 11:20 pm to lsu xman
Yankees would be on that list if not for Soto and THE JUDGE.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 11:53 pm to WestCoastAg
I bet you thought that was an insult, huh nerd?
This post was edited on 7/6/24 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 7/6/24 at 11:59 pm to Dairy Sanders
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The problem is they keep listening to the idiots who tell them they need to market it like the NBA and put the focus on individual stars
They know their game is materially different than the NBA in the effect that star players can have on it… a baseball star player can go 0-4 with 3 Ks and it may not affect the game that much… whereas if Luka Doncic had that bad a night the Mavs would probably lose
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