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Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:49 pm to tduecen
Just looked Leake is owed 31 million over the next two years with a 5 million buyout after that, the Cards are paying 9 million of that.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:50 pm to tduecen
Packaging one of your more valuable assets to get rid of a bad contract (that you traded for one year ago) and reduce payroll is just terrible business
Kick in money on Leake’s deal and see if someone will take it and if not hold on to him. If you want reduce payroll you can do a similar payroll reduction trading Segura’s 14m for a package of prospects
Kick in money on Leake’s deal and see if someone will take it and if not hold on to him. If you want reduce payroll you can do a similar payroll reduction trading Segura’s 14m for a package of prospects
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:50 pm to BayouBengals03
Yankees are not doing Machado, could see them bringing Walker back or grabbing another 2B in FA to play the position until Didi returns
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:52 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
So you are saying it has never been done? Plenty of teams have packaged players with bad contracts with players of value just to get rid of those contracts. He'll teams have given away players receiving Essentially nothing in return
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:53 pm to tduecen
I’m not saying it’s never been done. I’m saying it’s terrible business. Packaging bad assets with good ones and diluting the value is just stupid and there are better ways to reduce payroll
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:54 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
That may be your opinion, however, if what they are being offered isn't up to what they want then why not get rid of a conversation tract you don't want in return instead? Then you can suck and follow the Astros model of getting top picks while essentially Fielding a triple a team.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:55 pm to tduecen
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Yankees are not doing Machado,
Good.
If you want to spend that kind of money, you might as well go after Harper. Machado is the exact opposite of what this team needs.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:56 pm to tduecen
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Then you can suck and follow the Astros model of getting top picks while essentially Fielding a triple a team.
That deal is not in any way following what the Astros did
The Astros managed to get at least lottery ticket types for the worst assets they had in most cases. They were not trading good players in controllable contracts for other expensive major league veterans
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:58 pm to BayouBengals03
Harper isn't what they need, not with Stanton, Judge, Frazier, Hicks, Gardner, and Ellsbury
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:04 pm to BayouBengals03
I'm big on signing Happ, trading Gray, signing another starter, signing someone like Dozier
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:04 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Myers is someone they could flip as well, especially if the Padres eat some of the contract.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:12 pm to tduecen
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Myers is someone they could flip as well, especially if the Padres eat some of the contract.
Unless he goes nuts this year it’s going to be less than you can get for Segura because he is a worse player right now at a low value position. Padres would have to eat 16m on top of taking Leake’s contract to make their contracts equal which seems unlikely.
Again, if you are trying to rebuild you are diluting your return, if you are trying to win now you are making your team worse.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:21 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Correcting my shoddy math: Myers owed $64M over next 4 years. Segura (4 years) and Leake (2) owed combined $85M, and both have full no-trades. Segura could play SS for Pads until Tatis is ready, then move to 2B. Tatis also has played 3B. Deal at moment not thought to be close.
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SD want money as even as possible in any Myers trade. Would take on $21M if he went to SEA for Segura, Leake. Figure negotiable. Other names possible. Again, deal not close. But Leake’s awareness of talks indicate advanced discussions; both he and Segura would need to approve.
This post was edited on 11/21/18 at 8:09 am
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:14 am to tduecen
Never mind. I thought the STL still had half of Leake’s deal to pay off.
This post was edited on 11/21/18 at 12:24 am
Posted on 11/21/18 at 8:08 am to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
They pay 9 million of what remains
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:13 am to tduecen
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#STLCards maintaining interest in free agent Michael Brantley, source confirms, even as they’re open to a more expensive outfielder (read: Bryce Harper), per comments by Bill DeWitt III to @dgoold. @MLB @MLBNetwork
better be a last resort
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#STLCards maintaining interest in free agent Michael Brantley, source confirms, even as they’re open to a more expensive outfielder (read: Bryce Harper), per comments by Bill DeWitt III to @dgoold. @MLB @MLBNetwork
better be a last resort
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:13 am to BayouBengals03
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Machado is the exact opposite of what this team needs.
A 25 year old averaging 5 WAR a season over the last 6 years is the exact opposite of what they need?
I’m all for not paying big bucks to players on the wrong side of 30. But superstars hitting FA as young as Machado or Harper is extremely rare. If the Yankees blow the opportunity to get one it will be a huge mistake.
They aren’t winning shite with the same roster as last year + Paxton.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:17 am to 1ranter1
quote:I'd agree if they Yankees didn't already have a 3B/SS. While Machado is an upgrade at both positions, if Andujar improves to league average with the glove then his bat is a 3 WAR player, Torres will be even better and both are much younger under better contracts.
I’m all for not paying big bucks to players on the wrong side of 30. But superstars hitting FA as young as Machado or Harper is extremely rare. If the Yankees blow the opportunity to get one it will be a huge mistake.
They aren’t winning shite with the same roster as last year + Paxton.
For 30-35 million I would prefer the Yankees spread it among JA Happ/Robertson/another reliever or starter. The offense was good enough last year, the pitching doomed them.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:28 am to tduecen
Andujar can move to 1B or be a super platoon guy. Stanton needs to see more time in LF to open up the DH spot.
Or trade Didi for a starter or 1B. Didi is about to command one of those wrong side of 30 huge deals. Those are the contracts the Yankees need to be avoiding.
I disagree. They regularly get shut the frick down against elite strikeout pitchers. Which is mostly what you face in the postseason.
Or trade Didi for a starter or 1B. Didi is about to command one of those wrong side of 30 huge deals. Those are the contracts the Yankees need to be avoiding.
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The offense was good enough last year, the pitching doomed them.
I disagree. They regularly get shut the frick down against elite strikeout pitchers. Which is mostly what you face in the postseason.
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