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re: MLB Offseason Thread
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:41 am to volfan30
Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:41 am to volfan30
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Mets beat writer. That is an insane amount of $$. This is kind of a bizarre trade all around. I kind of like it for the Mariners though
Don’t really understand why the Mets are doing it
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Andy Martino @martinonyc
Roughly $60 mil headed Mets way in current incarnation of deal. Players, again, are Cano/Diaz for Bruce, Bautista, Swarzak, Dunn. Kelenic
Mets beat writer. That is an insane amount of $$. This is kind of a bizarre trade all around. I kind of like it for the Mariners though
Don’t really understand why the Mets are doing it
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 9:42 am
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 10:04 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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@AnthonyDiComo: Said this last night on SNY, and have since heard it from multiple baseball people: the Cano talks signal the Mets are in full win-now mode. And they can't stop here, because Cano and Diaz alone don't make this team a winner.
It's going to be a very, very active offseason.
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@Buster_ESPN: Teams being told that in initial ask, All-Star closer Craig Kimbrel is looking for a six-year deal.
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 10:05 am
Posted on 11/30/18 at 10:07 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
If that amount or anywhere near it is true, it's a no-brainer for the Mets if they're serious about competing. I'm more surprised about the money going back the other way. You would think that just a Diaz deal alone could have landed Kelenic and Dunn.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 10:08 am to papz
so do we know what is going to seattle?
Posted on 11/30/18 at 10:13 am to WestCoastAg
Seems like the hold off is the inclusion of McNeil and that Kelenic/Dunn are a given. If it reaches a standstill, I could see them swapping out Dunn for a lesser prospect to make McNeil happen. Kelenic is the prize here.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 10:15 am to papz
I’m just not confident the Mets can compete next year at all. I should have said I understand the line of reasoning but don’t agree with it. And there were all the rumors of them looking at deals for Syndergaard which doesn’t jibe with wanting to compete but maybe those aren’t true.
I think Kelenic and Dunn isn’t a bad haul on it’s own for Diaz because I don’t think people are going nuts for deals for relievers anymore. I also like Kelenic a lot from what I’ve read/watched
I think Kelenic and Dunn isn’t a bad haul on it’s own for Diaz because I don’t think people are going nuts for deals for relievers anymore. I also like Kelenic a lot from what I’ve read/watched
Posted on 11/30/18 at 10:28 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I think if the deal actually happens, they're going to want to keep Syndergaard. Otherwise, it really doesn't make any sense. But they are the Mets with a rookie GM... so who really knows.
With the rise and importance in cost of relievers now, I kind of feel the opposite. Coming off his historic season along with the years of control, I think it may be little light on the return. That Cano contract really dampened what he could have brought back which makes it strange why they aren't marketing them separately. If they're going to eat 60 million, take back Bruce's and Swarzak's contracts, they shouldn't find it that difficult to try to sell him somewhere else. Eat 80 mil selling Cano elsewhere and get max value for Diaz.
With the rise and importance in cost of relievers now, I kind of feel the opposite. Coming off his historic season along with the years of control, I think it may be little light on the return. That Cano contract really dampened what he could have brought back which makes it strange why they aren't marketing them separately. If they're going to eat 60 million, take back Bruce's and Swarzak's contracts, they shouldn't find it that difficult to try to sell him somewhere else. Eat 80 mil selling Cano elsewhere and get max value for Diaz.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 10:33 am to papz
I agree with you on packaging them and it doesn’t seem like they’ve waited long enough to have the market play out to see what they could really get for Diaz on his own. It will be interesting to see what the Mets do from here as they should still have money to spend if the rumored cash is true
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 10:34 am
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:57 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Mariners trade Alex Colome to the White Sox. Jerry Dipoto is currently listening to offers for pieces of the venue formerly known as Safeco Field. Chairs, outfield grass, roof panels. Everything must go.
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:57 pm to Lsuhoohoo
dipoto goes ham and i love it
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:00 pm to WestCoastAg
At this point, I can't see why they wouldn't flip Haniger. They could get a nice package for him.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:15 pm to UltimateHog
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Craig Kimbrel is looking for a six-year deal.
Good luck with that.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:39 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Braves would clearly give up some of their top prospects for Haniger if he’s available. It seems likely he would be available since the Mariners are clearly in fire sale mode.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 2:43 pm to rebel of fortune
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Braves would clearly give up some of their top prospects for Haniger
27 years old and controlled through the 2022 season. If you're going to give up top prospects, he's the kind of player to do it for.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 3:23 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Pretty incredible stat: the Mariners went 66-0 this year when Edwin Diaz entered with a lead, including 61-0 in his save chances. Diaz blew four saves, but the Mariners came back to win each of those games
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:02 pm to cgrand
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@JonHeyman: Yan Gomes is being acquired by the #Nats. Gives them a nice catching combo with Suzuki. Minor League RF Daniel Johnson going the other way to #Indians . (sorry if you saw earlier that mentioned Michael Taylor; he's not involved)
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:21 pm to UltimateHog
Billy Hamilton no longer with the Reds. He was fun to watch but couldn't hit a slow pitch softball.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 6:25 pm to UltimateHog
So Indians trade Mejia at the deadline bc he was blocked by Gomes and now deal Gomes? Who’s catching for them now?
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:57 pm to UltimateHog
Gomes+Suzuki at 9m AAV is pretty nice. You could argue that's better than dealing for JTR, backing him up with a replacement level guy and dealing Robles.
Nats still need significant SP help. That 3-5 is so trash right now.
Nats still need significant SP help. That 3-5 is so trash right now.
Posted on 12/1/18 at 8:55 pm to UltimateHog
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Joel Sherman Verified account @Joelsherman1 42 seconds ago
Full deal is Diaz, Cano and $20M to #Mets for Bruce, Swarzak, Kelenic, Dunn and Bautista. Mets will pay Cano 5 yrs $63M once subtract how much owe Bruce/Swarzak plus $20M
Joel Sherman Verified account @Joelsherman1 3 minutes ago
#Mets and #Mariners expect deal to be concluded late Monday with all physicals. Cano waived his no-trade clause
Joel Sherman Verified account @Joelsherman1 4 minutes ago
#Mets deal with #Mariners is done pending physicals. sea sending $20M to NYM to cover some of Cano’s deal.
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