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Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:15 pm to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:15 pm to
Until someone offers Monroe a max deal and they either match or trade him.
Posted by NorthGAVol
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:28 pm to
Are you really in here arguing that Jodie Meeks is worth $6.3M per year?



























Posted by Marty McFrat
Arkansas hell
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:48 pm to
Jodie Meeks is not worth that at all.
Posted by NorthGAVol
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:49 pm to
No kidding.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

Are you really in here arguing that Jodie Meeks is worth $6.3M per year?


Well, you didn't refute it in any meaningful way either. I'm still waiting.

What I am "arguing" is a player who averaged 16 points per game, shot 46%, 40% from 3pt, had the #5 TS% among SGs and plays decent defense is worth a league average salary. Combine that with the fact Detroit needs to overpay to attract a FA to begin with and and the overabundance of cap space available league-wide and you get a marginally above average contract...which, by the way, wouldn't even put him in the top 100 in player salary in 13/14.

Now, if you have something other than an emoticon in response, I'm all ears.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:05 pm to
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So basically they've wiped out all of their cap room, unless they can dump Josh Smith and/or they sign and trade Monroe. Sounds like a shitty situation to put yourself in, for Jodie fricking Meeks.

if they only had like $6M in cap room, they were pretty much fricked anyway and getting to the cap as soon as possible is the best thing for them

meeks got a "contract year" bump that may not be worth it, but he's certainly a 3-5M/year guy without question

drop-dead shooters are valuable as frick in today's NBA and he showed last year he can be a volume shooter/scorer
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:07 pm to
You can say whatever you want about Meeks' counting stats/efficiency, but guards in D'Antoni's system have not matched that level of play elsewhere historically.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74180 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:08 pm to
even on a shitty Lakers team this year, he proved he could fill it up QUICK. more power to him.
Posted by NorthGAVol
Member since Sep 2011
8939 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:09 pm to
He had a career year on a run and gun, no defense team coached by MDA. Go look at his stats from the previous 4 years before 13-14. He brings absolutely nothing else to the table besides jump shooting. Meeks can't even create his own shot. He will not come close to those numbers in Detroit, bank on that.

Btw, I'm a Lakers fan and I've seen this guy play a lot in the past 2 season. I would've been mad as frick if LA brought him back for 3yrs/$19M, even with all of our cap space.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:11 pm to
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He had a career year on a run and gun, no defense team coached by MDA.

and if he got a contract based off his stats from that year, he'd be approaching $10M/year

quote:

He will not come close to those numbers in Detroit, bank on that.

at $6M/per, he's not being paid to
Posted by BuddyLAM
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
2633 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

@ESPNSteinLine: RT @John_Wall: Got my man @MGortat back now waitin for my bro @TrevorAriza...Come on !!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471460 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:14 pm to
washington is pretty much setting themselves up to be like 2-4 every year in the east and never threatening a title
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32121 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:17 pm to
Detroit is paying Brandon Jennings 8mil/yr.

A PG that averages 15 fga per game for his CAREER and only makes 39.0% of them (14.2 attempts last year shooting 37.3%).

They need someone to shoot, and even if Jodie Meeks plays his career average, it is still better than letting Jennings shoot the ball.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36741 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:17 pm to
5 year 60 mil for Gortat
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36741 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:19 pm to
You're probably right. I'm being picky, Meeks is a MLE player IMO, which is only slightly less than he's being paid
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471460 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:26 pm to
and that difference doesn't really matter b/c what were they going to do with $1M in cap room?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36741 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

and that difference doesn't really matter b/c what were they going to do with $1M in cap room?


Well that isn't the best mindset to have in regards to free agency.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32121 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:35 pm to
Sure it is, only if you're using that mindset for one player and not the whole team

This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 7:35 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471460 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:36 pm to
as a general rule, you want to get to teh cap so you can start using your exceptions more quickly
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
1672 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:38 pm to
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@WojYahooNBA: Golden State has reached an agreement with Nets free agent guard Shaun Livingston, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.


3 yrs/16 mil
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 7:41 pm
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