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re: NCAA approves reform | Power 5 Conferences can write own rules

Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:46 pm to
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Why are they fricking with he greatness of college football?



I don't consider LSU vs Sam Houston to equal greatness. I see it as a waste. Play 12 real teams.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
South Alabama Fan
Member since May 2008
35690 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:48 pm to
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Play 12 real teams.


should make it more interesting no doubt.

should also expect more losses.

Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61440 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:48 pm to
There is nothing stopping LSU or Bama from trying to schedule PAC 12 teams instead of FCS. They just don't want to.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 2:29 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:53 pm to
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There is nothing stopping LSU or Bame from trying to schedule PAC 12 teams instead of FCS. They just don't want to.



It would put LSU at a huge disadvantage competitively. You don't get rewarded by playing a tougher schedule. See 2011
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3883 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:57 pm to
See FB Season 2007-2008.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
1672 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:57 pm to
I don't really have a full understanding of this but it sounds like we are fricked. Hopefully this blows up in the big 5s face and then we can figure out something more fair to all the schools.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38986 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:01 pm to
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the new governing body will actually enforce the rules stricter and make compliance a million times better.


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112687 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:01 pm to
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This is going to suck and suck the enjoyment out of College Football.
In what way?

A lot of that stuff is already happening now.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112687 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:02 pm to
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Of course you're not going to stress about this. Your group gets to make their own recruiting rules. While we (the smaller schools) will have even more of a disadvantage.
I don't mean this to disrespect, but what do the small schools bring to the table to deserve to be on the same playing field as the bigger schools?
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38986 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:02 pm to
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can't wait to see how large saban's staff gets



He will have 4 coaches per defensive position.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38986 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:05 pm to
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This is already happening now anyways.



I don't believe it is as blatant as it will become. Sure we as LSU fans always believe, some tongue in cheek, that the SEC Offices base their policies on Bama, but with its own autonomy, they will most certainly attach their financial well beings to the schools that they believe can win and win often.

My personal opinion of College Football has always been too many cheifs, but at least they are somewhat restrained. Give the chiefs autonomy, and all hell will break loose. JMO.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38986 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:08 pm to
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but what do the small schools bring to the table to deserve to be on the same playing field as the bigger schools?



Isnt a basic nature of Amateur sports the idea of the "little guy" at least, as little as it may be, having a shot? This now makes that 100% impossible.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112687 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:08 pm to
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First, it will completely destroy the smaller schools who occasionally compete for BCS games, but arent part of the big 5.
For CFB as a whole, I'm not sure this is that big of a deal. Playing Big 5 schools every week will be just as enticing.

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Second, eventually, the Bamas, Florida Sts, Texas, Ohio Sts of the world will run College Football
They already do.

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Thirdly, it will turn into a total bidding war for high school players
It already is.

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At least now the bag men are hidden and secretive and only the real high profile players are paid
Wait, so that's favorable to this new system?

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In 10 years, the College Football we know will cease to exist
Good, the NCAA is terrible as it is, it'll likely be better now that the Big 5 will have more power.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:10 pm to
this seems like a lot of positive to me.

-players get more benefits.
-schedules will be more balanced (P5 vs P5)
-non-power5 teams can create their own division and ACTUALLY compete for titles again.

lets face it, NCAA Div I is too stratified between the haves and the have-nots; this merger is necessary so the smaller schools actually have something to play for again...
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112687 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:11 pm to
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I don't believe it is as blatant as it will become
Have you seen how the NCAA governs? It literally can't get any worse, literally.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112687 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:12 pm to
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Isnt a basic nature of Amateur sports the idea of the "little guy" at least, as little as it may be, having a shot? This now makes that 100% impossible.
What's the argument for the big guy allowing the little guy to leech off of them like they are? I just don't see the argument, there's no pro, only cons basically.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38986 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:14 pm to
You are turning my argument into a pro-NCAA argument, congratulations that is difficult to do...I despise the NCAA.

The NCAA is useless and by allowing the Big 5 autonomy, have really only bargained to keep itself in place as a figure head. Its sort of like Parliament keeping the Queen in place, she doesn't do anything. My main argument here, is that by allowing the conferences themselves to dictate what will happen, it will eventually erode the product.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38986 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:15 pm to
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What's the argument for the big guy allowing the little guy to leech off of them like they are?


No one is forcing the big guy to pay the little guy to play.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112687 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:16 pm to
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You are turning my argument into a pro-NCAA argument, congratulations that is difficult to do...I despise the NCAA.
That's surely not my attention. But, and I may have the wrong guy, you laughed at someone saying the enforcement may be better this way. If you know how bad the NCAA is, I'd think you'd know the enforcement aspect can't get much worse, so that's a wash at worst.

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The NCAA is useless and by allowing the Big 5 autonomy, have really only bargained to keep itself in place as a figure head
Anything to give the NCAA less power is a good thing, IMO.

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My main argument here, is that by allowing the conferences themselves to dictate what will happen, it will eventually erode the product.
But why? In what ways?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112687 posts
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:16 pm to
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No one is forcing the big guy to pay the little guy to play.
Ok, but that doesn't attempt to answer my question.
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