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Posted on 9/27/16 at 5:20 pm to Jcorye1
Not Jesus, billionaires.
That aside, I saw a touchdown catch not awarded, no doubt, not my team so no bias. I've seen other catches, not called catches. You've never seen this before? You don't think the new catch rule was put in place for an exact purpose?
Eta. Found it LINK
That aside, I saw a touchdown catch not awarded, no doubt, not my team so no bias. I've seen other catches, not called catches. You've never seen this before? You don't think the new catch rule was put in place for an exact purpose?
Eta. Found it LINK
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going to let the world take a survey on that and see what they think,” Hopkins said. “You guys watched the game. I was pretty upset when they ruled i
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don’t know anything about the catch rule,” O’Brien said. “I might get fined for this, I don’t know, but somebody’s going to have to really sit down and explain to me the catch rule. Because basically to me a catch would be like when I was 10 years old in the backyard and we were playing football with our buddies and we all knew like, ‘Okay, he caught the ball.’ I’m going to stop right there.”
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 9/27/16 at 5:53 pm to StickD
Dude
Posted on 9/27/16 at 6:04 pm to StickD
Wow.
Just wanted to confirm the tinfoil hat. Carry on.
Just wanted to confirm the tinfoil hat. Carry on.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 6:21 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
And you can continue to watch today's NFL.
A player, a head coach, and anybody who saw the play knows it was clearly a Catch. But it was ruled otherwise.
It's awful what the NFL has become. I'd say carry on, but you are in the dark, you may run into a wall.
A player, a head coach, and anybody who saw the play knows it was clearly a Catch. But it was ruled otherwise.
It's awful what the NFL has become. I'd say carry on, but you are in the dark, you may run into a wall.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 6:28 pm to StickD
quote:Thank you for your permission.
And you can continue to watch today's NFL.
quote:I thought it was a catch, too. However, it was initially ruled incomplete so there's the "indisputable evidence" rule and no one knows what a catch is anymore. That being said, I didn't immediately put on my tinfoil hat and think the NFL overturned a call in the 2nd quarter to keep the teams close with the hope that there's an exciting finish.
A player, a head coach, and anybody who saw the play knows it was clearly a Catch. But it was ruled otherwise.
quote:
I'd say carry on, but you are in the dark, you may run into a wall.
Sure thing. I'm grateful my mind doesn't seek out and latch onto conspiracy theories. Truly.
ETA: There's no way you believe what you said about the NFL having to authorize blowouts... Right?
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 9/27/16 at 6:42 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
You can keep calling me a tin foil hat guy, but it doesn't help your agrument.
It was a catch. I'm not influenced by the NFL's word play and rules to tell me otherwise.
And good Catch, that was a hyperbole.
It was a catch. I'm not influenced by the NFL's word play and rules to tell me otherwise.
And good Catch, that was a hyperbole.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 6:45 pm to StickD
When you believe in ridiculous conspiracies, you get labeled a tinfoil hat guy.
Go back and re-read the shite you've posted. That's shite that comes out of the mouth of a conspiracy nut.
Go back and re-read the shite you've posted. That's shite that comes out of the mouth of a conspiracy nut.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 6:49 pm to StickD
quote:man I love this place
Example of keeping a team in the game.
Which helped KC have the chance to come back into the game at the end. It's exciting and good tv for the NFL. Not to mention Vegas. I'm pretty convinced the NFL has to authorize a blow out. Another reason most teams go around .500.
I tried to look up the play on YouTube but it's probably not there, it's not in the highlights. I saw a NFL 30 second Fanactics ad before it. Philly was the first jersey shown, hint hint. People watch the games and say dam that was a TD catch, but that's as far as it goes. Evaporated
Posted on 9/27/16 at 7:02 pm to WestCoastAg
Go ahead and quote my rant. You guys can say it's ridiculous conspiracies or you can just accept the fact that the NFL catch calls are awful and take points off the board.
And it is done even with the tech of replay nowadays. How crazy is it that even with replay they can't get it right?
And it is done even with the tech of replay nowadays. How crazy is it that even with replay they can't get it right?
Posted on 9/27/16 at 7:12 pm to StickD
quote:When did anyone argue otherwise?
you can just accept the fact that the NFL catch calls are awful and take points off the board.
People like you skip over the obvious explanations of convoluted rules and incompetent refs and jump right to conspiracy.
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 9/27/16 at 7:58 pm to The Quiet One
For Sunday night football, the theme music Carrie Underwood has sang for the last 10 years is catchy and it worked well. But the NFL had to go ahead and fix something that wasn't broke. This new song is terrible.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 8:00 pm to LSUneaux
Get Bocephus!
Posted on 9/27/16 at 8:19 pm to LSUneaux
Stop fricking with the rules every year. Go back to drives starting on the 20 yard line, and kicking off where they used to.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 8:56 pm to northeasttiger
Last week I played golf on Sunday afternoon rather than watch the NFL (I have red zone). I really do not like the way the game is officiated.
Thursday/Sunday/Monday night I can't watch it because of the amount of commercials.
You would think if they are trying to grow the game in Europe they would try and minimize the commercials a la soccer and rugby.
Thursday/Sunday/Monday night I can't watch it because of the amount of commercials.
You would think if they are trying to grow the game in Europe they would try and minimize the commercials a la soccer and rugby.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:06 pm to theone
NFL is garbage this year. The broadcast. The rules to make the passing game nearly unstoppable. The bullshite officiating that controls the outcome of games. The years of acting like you care about the military and are ultra patriotic only to not have in your collective bargaining agreement that players had to stand (missed that one didn't they?). Most importantly, the over commercialization of everything.
The product is bad and moving toward garbage. All that's left is for them to put "he hate me" on the back of jerseys.
its the beginning of the end
The product is bad and moving toward garbage. All that's left is for them to put "he hate me" on the back of jerseys.
its the beginning of the end
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:01 pm to blowmeauburn
Interesting thread, couple of thoughts, you boys are in the south were NFL football takes a back seat to college simply because you don’t have the product. I live 2.5hrs from Indy, 50min from Cincy, 3.5 from Cleveland, 3 hrs from Detroit and 5 hrs from Pittsburg, so needless so say in OHIO NFL football rules because there is just so much of it so I get why you southerns don’t care for it…you don’t have any teams.
I have been watching strictly the NFL since the mid 80s I have never watched college ball it just seems so….. uhh what is the word, bad, yes that is it bad. Where kickers can’t kick more than a 25 yard field goal, the drops, oh and the tackling yes the tackling is attrosish, that is why spreads O work in college and not the NFL because college is garbage fball with a bunch of running backs playing QBs because no one can tackle that doesn’t work in the NFL. I love defense and not offense, a great game is 19 -13, a shitty game is 45-52 but that is what the league wants….fantasy viewers, and offense drives fantasy so you are seeing a lot of rule changes to help offenses create more scoring, one problem, FBALL is about hitting and the min you take that out of the game there is literally no reason for football. You see all the movies always make the jocks look like hard asses, well that is because they are. I played football and the hitting is what separates the men from the boys, getting hit hurts and guys that don’t want to get hit play baseball, or basketball, you have to be a little crazy to play football, it is rowdy game and that is what makes it fun….hitting people!!
Let’s do some math there are only 8 NFL games a weeks and every game counts for home field and playoff seedings. In college there are 64 games a weekend and I know you guys are like I love college…no you like 5 games in college a week, none of you are watching Pitt v Central MI, or ASU v Tulsa. You see 95% of every game played in college every week is garbage come on , AL vs Middle TN, OSU vs….whoever, etc etc. The only college team that even plays a cool sch is Notre Dame.
I hear what some of you are saying about the booth and atmosphere. Well I can tell you why, add 20K free drunk 18-22 year students with a pep band in a NFL game and I guarantee it will seem more exciting, instead it is a bunch of fat overweight AL Bundys drinking PBR watching their team and praying their QBs don’t throw an INT. But don’t kid yourself, the NFL play is so vastly superior and that is why I can’t get into college, college is about mistakes…..(the kick 6 auburn) the NFL is about who is better (Malcom Butler reading the offense and making the INT to win a SB).
The NFL product itself is also oversaturated, Two Sun1 pm games, one 4pm Sun game, Sun nite, Mon night, and Thru night, it is a lot, but personally I love it, that gives me a chance to watch everyone and you see the difference is I can watch any NFL team because every team has a few players worth watching, TN has Mariotta, just wanna watch to see him play, Fitgerald for AZ is a real treat to watch, Scam Newton has mad Carolina interesting etc etc, college doesn’t have that, I could care less who the leading rusher is for the Wash Huskies who won’t even be drafted.
Here is the biggie, Rivalries, sports is always and will always be about Rivalries, Tiger VS Phil, Yankees/Redsoxs, etc etc. The NFL has had rivalries and they are different than college as they come and go with teams and players. IE Colts/Pats Manning/Brady, that is now gone and the league is doing everything they can to prevent rivalries because to have one, one team must hate the other which means the play gets rowdy. Take that Steelers/Bengals playoff game last year, that was nasty hitting and exciting but you knew the leagues was gonna cut that crap out when they met up a few weeks ago and they sure did making for a good but boring game. Now if the league would have said hey, what happens on the field stays on the field with no fines and penalties you can bet your arse that game would have been nasty and fun to watch, but the league is too politically correct any more which is making the product seem less appealing.
Two, the penalties and particularly PI has/is ruining the NFL, it has been mentioned several times and I am not going to beat a dead horse. I feel that PI should also be able to be challenged and the portion of the rule about a DB looking is ridiculous as can be. I usually read through the NFL rule book as it is about a 90page PDF….yes 90 pages, I am sure we could be doing some nip tucking if I was commish.
Is the NFL going any where…..no way, we have parties at my house, we go the bars all the time and watch whomever and its packed with eager other fans so you boycott all you want, millions of fans aren’t going anywhere….well not until it turns in to full flag football which is will, then it will be over.
I have been watching strictly the NFL since the mid 80s I have never watched college ball it just seems so….. uhh what is the word, bad, yes that is it bad. Where kickers can’t kick more than a 25 yard field goal, the drops, oh and the tackling yes the tackling is attrosish, that is why spreads O work in college and not the NFL because college is garbage fball with a bunch of running backs playing QBs because no one can tackle that doesn’t work in the NFL. I love defense and not offense, a great game is 19 -13, a shitty game is 45-52 but that is what the league wants….fantasy viewers, and offense drives fantasy so you are seeing a lot of rule changes to help offenses create more scoring, one problem, FBALL is about hitting and the min you take that out of the game there is literally no reason for football. You see all the movies always make the jocks look like hard asses, well that is because they are. I played football and the hitting is what separates the men from the boys, getting hit hurts and guys that don’t want to get hit play baseball, or basketball, you have to be a little crazy to play football, it is rowdy game and that is what makes it fun….hitting people!!
Let’s do some math there are only 8 NFL games a weeks and every game counts for home field and playoff seedings. In college there are 64 games a weekend and I know you guys are like I love college…no you like 5 games in college a week, none of you are watching Pitt v Central MI, or ASU v Tulsa. You see 95% of every game played in college every week is garbage come on , AL vs Middle TN, OSU vs….whoever, etc etc. The only college team that even plays a cool sch is Notre Dame.
I hear what some of you are saying about the booth and atmosphere. Well I can tell you why, add 20K free drunk 18-22 year students with a pep band in a NFL game and I guarantee it will seem more exciting, instead it is a bunch of fat overweight AL Bundys drinking PBR watching their team and praying their QBs don’t throw an INT. But don’t kid yourself, the NFL play is so vastly superior and that is why I can’t get into college, college is about mistakes…..(the kick 6 auburn) the NFL is about who is better (Malcom Butler reading the offense and making the INT to win a SB).
The NFL product itself is also oversaturated, Two Sun1 pm games, one 4pm Sun game, Sun nite, Mon night, and Thru night, it is a lot, but personally I love it, that gives me a chance to watch everyone and you see the difference is I can watch any NFL team because every team has a few players worth watching, TN has Mariotta, just wanna watch to see him play, Fitgerald for AZ is a real treat to watch, Scam Newton has mad Carolina interesting etc etc, college doesn’t have that, I could care less who the leading rusher is for the Wash Huskies who won’t even be drafted.
Here is the biggie, Rivalries, sports is always and will always be about Rivalries, Tiger VS Phil, Yankees/Redsoxs, etc etc. The NFL has had rivalries and they are different than college as they come and go with teams and players. IE Colts/Pats Manning/Brady, that is now gone and the league is doing everything they can to prevent rivalries because to have one, one team must hate the other which means the play gets rowdy. Take that Steelers/Bengals playoff game last year, that was nasty hitting and exciting but you knew the leagues was gonna cut that crap out when they met up a few weeks ago and they sure did making for a good but boring game. Now if the league would have said hey, what happens on the field stays on the field with no fines and penalties you can bet your arse that game would have been nasty and fun to watch, but the league is too politically correct any more which is making the product seem less appealing.
Two, the penalties and particularly PI has/is ruining the NFL, it has been mentioned several times and I am not going to beat a dead horse. I feel that PI should also be able to be challenged and the portion of the rule about a DB looking is ridiculous as can be. I usually read through the NFL rule book as it is about a 90page PDF….yes 90 pages, I am sure we could be doing some nip tucking if I was commish.
Is the NFL going any where…..no way, we have parties at my house, we go the bars all the time and watch whomever and its packed with eager other fans so you boycott all you want, millions of fans aren’t going anywhere….well not until it turns in to full flag football which is will, then it will be over.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:05 pm to Jack Ruby
It's a very mediocre product
take away the gamblers, office pool tards, and fantasy footballers and they would have ratings like reruns of Strong man competition.
take away the gamblers, office pool tards, and fantasy footballers and they would have ratings like reruns of Strong man competition.
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:06 pm to highbooost
quote:
Interesting thread, couple of thoughts, you boys are in the south were NFL football takes a back seat to college simply because you don’t have the product
The Saints, at least when relevant, dominate the NFL in terms of local viewership.
LINK
Hell, even for preseason games LINK
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:12 pm to Speedy G
quote:I agree completely.
But, taking a step back from the on field product, a glaring difference I see is that the best college games are almost always on TV. This is a relatively recent phenomenon, with so many networks now broadcasting college football (unlike the old regional ABC days). Meanwhile the NFL is still putting out their boring 2/1 regional Sunday afternoon schedule (sometimes 1/1). I get virtually the same teams every Sunday afternoon. That is just not enough to maintain my interest and invest my time.
The college has so many blowouts argument doesn't make much sense to me. First off, I love watching Alabama play football. Blowouts hold my attention just like any good game would. And then you have all the other teams. 12 o'clock comes, and I turn on the game I'm most interested in. Over the next hour or so, things happen and top teams find themselves in dog fights. They're always on TV so I watch them until they're out of hand...or I'm treated to some insane contest.
Then PrimeTime games come and I watch whatever is the most interesting.
Redzone is awesome for fantasy, but it becomes boring to me the second it looks like I can't win(I know I know, win more). There aren't many NFL games on TV. Close games don't have that intense sense of urgency that college games do. The Pats are losing to a bad team? Eh, get em next week.
I enjoy the NFL enough...but live for college football Saturdays.
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