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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:31 pm to
Posted by selfgen
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:31 pm to
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Taylor should have cut up


This! He would have gotten the first down!!
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:32 pm to
Honestly if he leads Goodson there’s no guarantee one of the two defenders hanging around there don’t blow up the play.
Posted by bad93ex
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:32 pm to
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Taylor should have cut up



He didn't look the same after the heel injury
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:33 pm to
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That’s the expectation for a quality pass now? Just get near them?
he didn’t “get it near him” he put it in his fricking hands. There’s no argument to be made that this isn’t on Goodson. The fact I’m even entertaining this is making me question my own intelligence.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:34 pm to
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Honestly if he leads Goodson there’s no guarantee one of the two defenders hanging around there don’t blow up the play.


We see that play all the time. The WR/TE/RB catches the pass while running towards the sideline and then turns up and reaches out for the first down/touchdown.

I think the RB ran a poor route and turned up field too soon.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:35 pm to
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question my own intelligence.


You should.

Throwing a pass that forced the receiver to perform a 180 in the opposite direction they are running is on the QB.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:37 pm to
It was the best place for that ball to have a chance to get caught thanks to the fricked up route he ran. Minshew probably could’ve put a bit more touch on it but it hit him in the hands. Go ask any coach in America whose fault it is for a drop when the ball hits the receivers hands (with very few exceptions).
Posted by bad93ex
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:39 pm to
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It was the best place for that ball to have a chance to get caught thanks to the fricked up route he ran. Minshew probably could’ve put a bit more touch on it but it hit him in the hands. Go ask any coach in America whose fault it is for a drop when the ball hits the receivers hands (with very few exceptions).



Will Anderson Jr forced Minshew into that passing lane
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:40 pm to
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It was the best place for that ball to have a chance to get caught thanks to the fricked up route he ran


You have no idea if the route was fricked up or not.

The best place for the ball was a couple of feet up the field from where it was.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:41 pm to
Correctly Run Flat Route

Notice which way the RB is facing. The Colts RB ran a poor route.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:41 pm to
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You have no idea if the route was fricked up or not.


Well, we do. It was a flat route.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:42 pm to
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The best place for the ball was a couple of feet up the field from where it was.
you mean where there were two defensive backs waiting?

As mentioned by rb10. No running back is cutting up that early on that play. If that’s what the colts called then it was a shite call but I highly doubt it considering the facts that it was a 3rd stringer that had zero business being on the field there.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:42 pm to
Ah. Didn’t realize you were in on the play call. My bad. Carry on.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:44 pm to
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Ah. Didn’t realize you were in on the play call. My bad. Carry on.


It’s not really difficult to tell by the way the play was run. It’s a pretty common play and route.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:44 pm to
A foot or two downfield wouldn’t have made a difference with the defense.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:46 pm to
Yep. All ran the same way. Doesn’t matter how far the outside receiver makes it up the field. If he’s hung up, just run into him.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:47 pm to
From the last replay I saw it looked like the inside db was starting to break in. I’m not saying it would’ve been directly defended/picked off but it would’ve increased the odds of him getting blown up and the pass being dropped that way.

And I may have saw it wrong idk I only saw it once from what they showed right after the play happened.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Basura Blanco
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:49 pm to
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Cal McNair looks exactly how you’d expect a Cal McNair to look







Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51837 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:50 pm to
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Yep. All ran the same way. Doesn’t matter how far the outside receiver makes it up the field. If he’s hung up, just run into him.


The Colts receiver was 5 yards past the LoS. Both defenders were running with him.

The RB runs the route correctly he makes the catch and turns up field with no one within 5 yards of him. He kept drifting up field and turned the wrong way.

ETA: As someone else said, Will Anderson also got into the passing lane, and Minshew put the ball where he could. Maybe the RB saw all the space ahead of him and thought Minshew was going to lead him into it too.

I’ve watched the replay a few times now. It should have been an easy 5+ yard gain.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 10:56 pm
Posted by bad93ex
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 10:51 pm to
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Cal McNair looks exactly how you’d expect a Cal McNair to look



I think he is gaining some goodwill back with the Texans' fans
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