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Posted on 6/6/15 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
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Posted on 6/6/15 at 6:50 pm to
Pretty sure everybody knew what you were doing.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56004 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 6:50 pm to
Secretariat won in the '70s. The '90s weren't that long ago to people who aren't in school (a vast majority of people).
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
27648 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 6:51 pm to
only a few of us, evidently, know what you are doing... the rest are trying to prove you wrong....

oh, and very nice job, btw
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
107125 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 6:51 pm to
Agreed. That American Pharoah cat trained with Dortmund. Real GOATs do it by themselves.
Posted by Nonetheless
MAGA
Member since Jan 2012
34398 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 6:52 pm to
This isnt a thread about horses??
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
Member since Jun 2012
7374 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 6:54 pm to
Not really. I guess some think it is. Oh wait, it is just about horses since they said we are clueless.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33134 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 6:54 pm to
All the horses today are friends too. Back in the day they hated each other
Posted by Tiger-Striped-Bass
The Bay Area
Member since Dec 2004
1273 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:25 pm to
Secretariat's autopsy showed a freakishly large heart that accounted for his amazing ability. Unless another horse is born with such a rare abnormality, he'll never be surpassed. He's in his own category-no comparison
This post was edited on 6/6/15 at 7:28 pm
Posted by Tiger-Striped-Bass
The Bay Area
Member since Dec 2004
1273 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:26 pm to
Dp
This post was edited on 6/6/15 at 7:27 pm
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45604 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

Secretariat's autopsy showed a freakishly large heart that accounted for his amazing ability. Unless another horse is born with such a rare abnormality, he'll never be surpassed. He's in his own category-no comparison


Roids?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91511 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:33 pm to
Couldn't agree more. frick, Sham would wipe the floor with the horses today, and he couldn't hold Secretariat's jock.

AP couldn't compete with the physicality of the horses in the 70s. They would abuse him. Horse racing was so much better then. None of the scratches and whining that you have today.

It is embarrassing that these young'ns think any different.
Posted by Kankles
Member since Dec 2012
6119 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:34 pm to
There are huge lines of Friesian horses when a new pair of Secretariats come out. American Pharoah shoes are meh...
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
128116 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:36 pm to
I noticed American Pharoah had a receding mane.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
130483 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:36 pm to
MJ > Lebron
Posted by Tiger-Striped-Bass
The Bay Area
Member since Dec 2004
1273 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:37 pm to
I stand corrected. I guess it could happen again, but....
Quote:
A necropsy revealed his heart was significantly larger than that of an ordinary horse.[37] An extremely large heart is a trait that occasionally occurs in Thoroughbreds, linked to a genetic condition passed down via the dam line, known as the "x-factor".[37][39][40][41] The x-factor can be traced to the historic racehorse Eclipse, which was necropsied after his death in 1789. Because Eclipse's heart appeared to be much larger than other horses, it was weighed, and found to be 14 pounds (6.4 kg), almost twice the normal weight. Eclipse is believed to have passed the trait on via his daughters, and pedigree research verified that Secretariat traces in his dam line to a daughter of Eclipse.[37] In the 20th century, the heart of Phar Lap was weighed and also documented to be 6.35 kilograms (14.0 lb),[42] or essentially the same size as that of Eclipse.

At the time of Secretariat's death, the veterinarian who performed the necropsy, Dr. Thomas Swerczek, head pathologist at the University of Kentucky, did not weigh Secretariat's heart, but stated, "We just stood there in stunned silence. We couldn't believe it. The heart was perfect. There were no problems with it. It was just this huge engine."[38] Later, Swerczek also performed a necropsy on Sham, who died in 1993. Swerczek did weigh Sham's heart, and it was 18 pounds (8.2 kg). Based on Sham's measurement, and having necropsied both horses, he estimated Secretariat's heart probably weighed 22 pounds (10.0 kg),[37] or about two-and-three-quarters times as large as that of the average horse.
This post was edited on 6/6/15 at 7:38 pm
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37325 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:39 pm to


And Secretariat was dominant. Did you even see the 73 Belmont footage?
Posted by Tiger-Striped-Bass
The Bay Area
Member since Dec 2004
1273 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:42 pm to
I have seen the footage. That's why the necropsy is so relevant. Not taking away from secretariat. Just doesn't seem fair to hold all other horses to that standard. Deserves his own catagory
This post was edited on 6/6/15 at 7:44 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
67033 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:48 pm to
hg, you magnificent bastard.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
67033 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:50 pm to
Secretariat was just born with a better frame/genetics, like Shaq and Serena Williams. He didn't really win with more skill, hard work, or guile.
This post was edited on 6/6/15 at 7:56 pm
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7601 posts
Posted on 6/6/15 at 7:51 pm to
You young guys crack me up around here. Within the last month you clowns have become boxing and horse racing savants all of a sudden.
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