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re: This is how far better the SEC is than the Pac-10
Posted on 11/28/08 at 4:16 pm to MJRuffalo
Posted on 11/28/08 at 4:16 pm to MJRuffalo
quote:That may be good enough for you, but I use comprehensive, not selective, statistics. You'll understand when you're older.
I would say using only conference shedules are similar enough. 7-1 trumps 6-2 especiall when you consider that Arkansas kicked the shite out of Auburn in Jordan Hare.
Posted on 11/28/08 at 4:19 pm to xiv
It is not selective stats it is common sense. Had Auburn played USC and Missouri, they would have gotten their asses kicked.
Posted on 11/28/08 at 4:27 pm to MJRuffalo
quote:Common sense based on the games you selected to consider. If you use common sense and consider all the games, you'll conclude that LSU and Auburn were better than Arkansas. Every poll and computer agrees.
It is not selective stats it is common sense. Had Auburn played USC and Missouri, they would have gotten their asses kicked.
This post was edited on 11/28/08 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 11/28/08 at 4:49 pm to xiv
Too bad common sense outweighs your computer polls.
Posted on 11/28/08 at 5:48 pm to MJRuffalo
quote:That's arguable if you consider all games. You do not.
Too bad common sense outweighs your computer polls.
Posted on 11/28/08 at 5:51 pm to xiv
What is arguable about the fact that out of the 2 main non-conference differences it was USC and Missouri vs. WSU and Nebraska. barring a major upset Auburn loses to both, and itis likely that Arkansas wins vs both. That is the main difference in their records.
Posted on 11/28/08 at 5:55 pm to MJRuffalo
Posted on 11/29/08 at 3:15 am to MJRuffalo
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Give me a rational argument that puts Tennessee as the #5 team in the SEC last year, or Arkansas who went 7-1 in the SEC the year prior.
So, are you saying that Oregon St is better than USC???
Florida, Georgia, and LSU were OBVIOUSLY better than Tennessee last year, so they were the 4th best SEC team at best. If you don't agree with that, you're retarded.
And they probably weren't much better than Auburn, so they were right around 4th or 5th.
Yea, it's so farfetched.
This post was edited on 11/29/08 at 3:16 am
Posted on 11/29/08 at 5:24 am to shel311
quote:Oregon State's a very good football team. They're undefeated at home with one game, The Civil War vs. Oregon, remaining. Check it out, it should be a good one.
So, are you saying that Oregon St is better than USC???
The teams Oregon State lost to, Penn State, Utah and Stanford are a combined 17-1 on their respective home fields, with Stanford's lone home loss coming against USC (and Stanford played us tough for as long as they could!).
The difference between USC and Oregon State is that we play almost as well on the road as we do at home, and we are much deeper with talent.
USC is a better program overall, and you'd be a fool not to recognize that fact.
What matters though, is that Oregon State thoroughly outplayed USC in the first half of that game in Corvallis, and hung on to win by 6 points. When the last second ticked off the clock that night in Reser Stadium, Oregon State was a better team than USC. College football and the BCS will ignore all other points in the space-time continuum and focus on that one.
Are they a better team than USC today? Nope, probably not.
There is no "Florida Forgiveness" in the PAC 10.
Unlike in the SEC, where you can lose to Ole Miss at home and still win the conference, there are no SECond chances.
Should the Beavers win the conference today, I wish them the very best of luck in the Rose Bowl.
They certainly will have earned it.
As I've stated before, I hope they do win it. I really want to see USC put a beat down on a Big 12 or SEC team in our bowl game.
This post was edited on 11/29/08 at 5:26 am
Posted on 11/29/08 at 5:56 am to loweralabamatrojan
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There is no "Florida Forgiveness" in the PAC 10.
Unlike in the SEC, where you can lose to Ole Miss at home and still win the conference, there are no SECond chances
I don't follow.
USC lost to a 6-5 UCLA team and won the PAC 10 2 years ago I think?
if Oregon St loses to Oregon, USC will get a SECond chance and win the PAC 10. I'm just not seeing your post.
Granted, we've gotten off subject. My post was meant to say, just like Oregon St isn't better than USC, it is possible that Tennessee was the 4tth or 5th best team in the SEC last year even though they played in the SEC CG.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 6:26 am to shel311
quote:In the unlikely event that Oregon upsets Oregon State today, that is true.
if Oregon St loses to Oregon, USC will get a SECond chance and win the PAC 10. I'm just not seeing your post.
We'll win the conference because we'll have beaten more teams in conference than Oregon State*.
It's very tight this season though, and very much out of our hands.
*if we beat ucla of course. If we don't beat ucla, i'll probably do something rash.
This post was edited on 11/29/08 at 6:28 am
Posted on 11/29/08 at 7:14 am to loweralabamatrojan
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If we don't beat ucla, i'll probably do something rash.
Losing to UCLA would be worse than losing to Stanford last year.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 7:27 am to dukke v
quote:Yes it would. Stanford is an up and coming football program with a hard nosed coach.
Losing to UCLA would be worse than losing to Stanford last year.
ucla is the epitome of suckitude.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 7:39 am to loweralabamatrojan
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ucla is the epitome of suckitude.
Could LSU beat them?????
Posted on 11/29/08 at 7:41 am to dukke v
Arizona States probably on a par with LSU and ASU destroyed the bRuins.
I'm with MJRuff on this one: I don't even want to concede a first down to those powder blue fairies.
I'm with MJRuff on this one: I don't even want to concede a first down to those powder blue fairies.
Posted on 11/29/08 at 7:44 am to loweralabamatrojan
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I'm with MJRuff on this one
I am NEVER with him!! At least you know some reality. I would rather have a talk with you about sports than THAT bafoon.
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I don't even want to concede a first down to those powder blue fairies.
Hollywood High huh????
Posted on 11/29/08 at 7:47 am to loweralabamatrojan
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ucla is the epitome of suckitude.
Loweralabama or MJRuff or anyone,
I am searching for two images. The full page LA Times ad taken out by UCLA that says "The Dynasty is officllay over" and the USC fark that Says Dynasty is offially overe there" (with the coach of The Bruins pointing). can't seem to find. Do you all nkow where it might be?
Posted on 11/29/08 at 7:50 am to LSUTANGERINE
I've seen it several times on wearesc.
Edit: found 'em.
Before
After

Edit: found 'em.
Before
After
This post was edited on 11/29/08 at 7:58 am
Posted on 11/29/08 at 10:43 am to dukke v
Yes LSU could beat Ucla. UCla's defense held ASU to around 100 yards of offense and they still got killed 34-9
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