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Posted on 4/11/10 at 10:24 pm to
Posted by PEtiger
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2010
7 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 10:24 pm to
A player and a guy who coaches several guys on tour.

For all the guys who think Phil is an extremely nice guy, his nickname among the players on tour is FIGJAM (F*ck I'm Good...Just Ask Me). He is not well liked among most of the guys on tour, and his public persona is far different from the private.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21973 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 10:38 pm to
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For all the guys who think Phil is an extremely nice guy, his nickname among the players on tour is FIGJAM (F*ck I'm Good...Just Ask Me). He is not well liked among most of the guys on tour, and his public persona is far different from the private.


I've heard this from several people like you who say they know people around the tour, and usually when there's smoke, there's fire. But, to me, there's a difference between just being a dick to the guys on tour in private, and coming off as a dick in public. I don't really care if Tiger and Phil are great guys or not; I just want to see good golf.
Posted by Trojan Ace
Reality
Member since Nov 2005
4004 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 10:40 pm to
You do realize Phil Mickelson is one of the most hated athletes in pro sports (he showed up 8th out of the top 10). Other Tour players call him "figjam" (frick I'm good just ask me). The whole media persona that you fall for deserves a . Phil's a dick.
Posted by PEtiger
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2010
7 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 10:45 pm to
I agree with you 100%, it's all about good golf. The only reason I posted was because the OP acts like the guy is a saint and that karma was on his side. Simple fact is Phil is human and has his vices, he just happened to play better golf than anyone else in the field this week. Let's not cannonize the guy.
Posted by SDwhodat
Member since Apr 2007
2641 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 10:58 pm to
The people I know who have met and know Phil seem to think he is a pretty decent guy.
Posted by Ron Mexico
AMERICA
Member since Dec 2005
52037 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 10:59 pm to
this is the dumbest thread ever. most of the tour HATES phil. like, despises him bc hes such an arrogant a-hole
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22204 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 11:00 pm to
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FIGJAM (F*ck I'm Good...Just Ask Me).
I will definately be using this
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 11:25 pm to
Phil is kinda a dick though, and anyone who knows a PGA player personally will tell you that Phil is easily the least liked person on the tour by other golfers. The guy Phil portrays himself to be on the course isn't the real Phil Mickelson
This post was edited on 4/11/10 at 11:27 pm
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8152 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 11:33 pm to
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Phil is kinda a dick though


this isn't directed at you, just more to your comment. IF this is the case (and I'm not saying it is) but for the sake of this discussion, here's what I don't understand. Woods' fans are telling everyone that it's all about the golf and his personality/actions/etc are all irrelevant. OK fine...well if that is the case, if it's all about the golf, what difference does it make if Mickelson is disliked by his peers? He's still a phenomenal golfer, quite clearly top 3 in the world...why the double standard?
Posted by Scratchy Pujols
Member since Mar 2010
703 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 11:36 pm to
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why the double standard?
Everyone is attacking Woods from a moral standpoint and not Phil. Pretty simple really
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8152 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 11:39 pm to
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Everyone is attacking Woods from a moral standpoint and not Phil


not really. both arguments essentially are, "they are not who they have made themselves out to be." I really think that is what pissed off so many people about Woods. They feel they were sold a bill of goods. Besides, as has been illustrated throughout several threads, many people disliked Woods before his troubles started.
This post was edited on 4/11/10 at 11:41 pm
Posted by Scratchy Pujols
Member since Mar 2010
703 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 11:41 pm to
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not really. both arguments essentially are, "they are not who they have made themselves out to be." I really think that is what pissed off so many people about Woods. They feel were sold a bill of goods.
I just find it funny that Phil lovers jump Tiger's case when most feel that Phil is the one who's liked less.
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Besides, as has been illustrated throughout several threads, many people disliked Woods before his troubles started.
Because he's the best
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8152 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 11:52 pm to
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Phil is the one who's liked less


by other golfers. why would his (Mickelson's) fans care what other golfers think about him? It's not like Woods has a ton of friends in golf either...they may not say it like they do with Mickelson, but do you really think those guys are going to bite the hand that feeds them?
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27658 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 11:54 pm to
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"Lefty" is a good man, good husband and good father...


I have read on a couple occasions that Phil is one of the least liked guys on tour, BY TOUR PLAYERS. They think he is a fraud?? And he does have a gambling issue I believe. So don't put him on SUCH a pedestal. I am not a Tiger or Phil hater. I was pulling for Phil. I AM an Angel Cabrera hater.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37010 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 11:56 pm to
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My sources on tour (more than one person) have said that it is know among the players that Phil, nor his wife, were faithful to each other before she started her bout with breast cancer.


maybe they have an "understanding". i know couples that are like that. i think will smith and his wife do that.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8152 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 11:57 pm to
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I AM an Angel Cabrera hater.


What's your beef with him...just curious.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27658 posts
Posted on 4/11/10 at 11:59 pm to
What I do love about Tiger's troubles is the fact that it puts in perspective how difficult what Tiger is trying to do is. People say he needs just 5 more to pass Jack. Well 5 more majors is Nick Faldo.!!! It is another hall of fame career on top of a Walter Hagen type career. this shite is not easy.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37010 posts
Posted on 4/12/10 at 12:02 am to
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this is the dumbest thread ever. most of the tour HATES phil. like, despises him bc hes such an arrogant a-hole


i bet they all love tiger too.

i don't care if phil is an arse to other players. they are his competitors. he acts right for fans and i don't need much more than that.

my dislike for tiger, like i have said a couple of times, is not his fault at all. tiger is usc, notre dame the dallas cowboys and the new york yankeys all rolled into one.

there are golf fans and there are tiger fans. rarely are there both.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37010 posts
Posted on 4/12/10 at 12:04 am to
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Everyone is attacking Woods from a moral standpoint and not Phil. Pretty simple really


people attach tiger because he presents himself as an a-hole.

phil at least plays the part of a nice guy.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37010 posts
Posted on 4/12/10 at 12:05 am to
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many people disliked Woods before his troubles started.


i actually dislike him a little less after his "troubles".
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