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re: USC Crying Again
Posted on 1/2/09 at 7:38 am to tigerdup07
Posted on 1/2/09 at 7:38 am to tigerdup07
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i saw the pete's post game interview and he said nothing about getting "cheated". he just said that he can beat anyone in the country. you disagree with that?
They probably could. There is a difference between "politic-ing" and "complaining." Pete complains/whines, and THAT is why I hate USC.
Yes, the system sucks. But guess what, show up against a weaker OrgSt team, and you're in Miami. Until the Pac10 is perceived to be stronger, they may keep getting shafted.
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 7:39 am to loweralabamatrojan
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Cal over Miami happened.
Sorry, forgot that one! 5-0?
Not bad for a weak conference.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 8:05 am to rbdallas
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Tell the media darling to INSIST on a Conference PLAYOFF (Championship Game).
How the frick can they do that? The Pac-10 is one team shy of legally being able to have one. Which school are they going to force at gun-point to join their conference? And how are they going to demand it from a conference who has apparently no intention of doing it anyway?
I don't think you can fault USC for playing a weak schedule. They probably schedule the most difficult OOC opponents of all the BCS contenders. Ohio State, Nebraska, Auburn, Arkansas, etc...have all been scheduled recently. And I think they were all home and homes, which is rare. They can't help when the Pac 10 is down. Now regardless, that still has to be held against them when factoring who deserves to play in the NCG, but it's not because of anything they did or didn't do.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 8:11 am to tigerdup07
Just my opinion but the biggest obstical in a future playoff or or +1 game is the Rose Bowl and its tie-ins
So what do you want PAC 10 fans... playoffs or the Rose Bowl and its conference tie-ins.
So what do you want PAC 10 fans... playoffs or the Rose Bowl and its conference tie-ins.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 8:17 am to Kajungee
USC gets to:
1) Play in the Pac 10 (don't be fooled by the 5-0 bowl record. The season ended weeks ago if you are not in the BCS games)
2) Not play a Conference Championship game
3) Play a Big 10 team their last game of the year.
That is a recipe for a 1 or 2 loss season with a good ending, thus The arguement that they are as good as anyone. Get used to it. It will keep happening.
1) Play in the Pac 10 (don't be fooled by the 5-0 bowl record. The season ended weeks ago if you are not in the BCS games)
2) Not play a Conference Championship game
3) Play a Big 10 team their last game of the year.
That is a recipe for a 1 or 2 loss season with a good ending, thus The arguement that they are as good as anyone. Get used to it. It will keep happening.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 8:21 am to Wyatt
First of all, USC did not beat either the number one OR number two team in the Country. They didn't play either of them. They played Penn St., who is not in the top 2. Beating the number 3 or 4 or 5 team in the Country does not entitle you to a national championship.
That being said, every single team has the same challenge at the beginning of the year.....beat the teams you are supposed to beat and get to the big show. The reason USC never plays a top caliber SEC team is because they can never make it through their powder puff conference schedule unscathed. They always lose one to some shitty team, and then the media pundits call it a "hiccup"....or say that they took a game off as though this is an excuse.
Arguably, lots of teams take "days off"....or have "off games". When that happens, you have to look at who beat them, and how tough the gauntlet was that they had to walk to get to the end of the year.
Everybody else has this same task. OK lost to Texas. Maybe OK took a day off. Texas lost to Texas Tech....maybe they took a day off....but you don't hear anybody screaming that they should be the split national champions.(well...not as loudly as ESPN/Mushberger for USC)
USC needs to have one year where they don't take their perennial "Day off", and then they might get the chance to play a Florida or an LSU...who few can argue have more difficult conference schedules.
My point: If you want to whine about NC's, then win your fricking games and get to the championship. If you must play in a weak arse conference (and no, this is not their fault, as they are always good), then you shouldn't be afforded a "day off". Your "days off" consist of the shitbirds you play in your own conference.
I don't think USC could beat Florida this year.
What is really funny is how the announcers completely wrote off what Penn St. did to the vaunted USC defense in the second half of that game last night. They claimed that they were not as "fired up". Are you fricking kidding me? They got shred. Penn St. played a horrible first half. What USC saw in the second half is what Florida would do the entire game. Florida doesn't take "halfs off"....which is why they are where they are. (Yes, I know they lost to Ole Miss....who turned out to be pretty good. But, they also played multiple teams with pulses, including an undefeated Alabama, which is the difference between them and USC.)
So, either win your games, or shut the frick up. Just my 2 cents.
That being said, every single team has the same challenge at the beginning of the year.....beat the teams you are supposed to beat and get to the big show. The reason USC never plays a top caliber SEC team is because they can never make it through their powder puff conference schedule unscathed. They always lose one to some shitty team, and then the media pundits call it a "hiccup"....or say that they took a game off as though this is an excuse.
Arguably, lots of teams take "days off"....or have "off games". When that happens, you have to look at who beat them, and how tough the gauntlet was that they had to walk to get to the end of the year.
Everybody else has this same task. OK lost to Texas. Maybe OK took a day off. Texas lost to Texas Tech....maybe they took a day off....but you don't hear anybody screaming that they should be the split national champions.(well...not as loudly as ESPN/Mushberger for USC)
USC needs to have one year where they don't take their perennial "Day off", and then they might get the chance to play a Florida or an LSU...who few can argue have more difficult conference schedules.
My point: If you want to whine about NC's, then win your fricking games and get to the championship. If you must play in a weak arse conference (and no, this is not their fault, as they are always good), then you shouldn't be afforded a "day off". Your "days off" consist of the shitbirds you play in your own conference.
I don't think USC could beat Florida this year.
What is really funny is how the announcers completely wrote off what Penn St. did to the vaunted USC defense in the second half of that game last night. They claimed that they were not as "fired up". Are you fricking kidding me? They got shred. Penn St. played a horrible first half. What USC saw in the second half is what Florida would do the entire game. Florida doesn't take "halfs off"....which is why they are where they are. (Yes, I know they lost to Ole Miss....who turned out to be pretty good. But, they also played multiple teams with pulses, including an undefeated Alabama, which is the difference between them and USC.)
So, either win your games, or shut the frick up. Just my 2 cents.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 8:46 am to rumproast
quote:That's not a very good or well thought out argument.
So, either win your games, or shut the frick up. Just my 2 cents.
How is USC's loss to a good team in front of a loud hostile crowd in a Thursday night road game worse than Florida's loss at home to Ole freaking Miss?
As far as "what PSU did to the vaunted SC defense" well, Penn State's a pretty good football team. And I'd probably not be far off the mark in saying USC put the brakes on in the second half. The score could have been much worse if Carroll wanted it that way.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 8:50 am to Hot Carl
Put Boise State in the Pac 10, after all, they have the best record in the last 10 years. Geeez, "give me a fricking break"
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:05 am to rumproast
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First of all, USC did not beat either the number one OR number two team in the Country. They didn't play either of them. They played Penn St., who is not in the top 2. Beating the number 3 or 4 or 5 team in the Country does not entitle you to a national championship.
Rumroast,
With all due respect to you and your analysis (which I think is good), but it DID "win" them a "National Championship" in 2003. Remember?
They did just that, and were rewarded for it, despite only beating two ranked teams that year, while LSU and Oklahoma each beat five or more ranked teams.
So, that reward in 2003 for doing nothing but being a media darling is why you have this whining still today.
That set a presedence for USC. Now, the media and everyone else carries on the tradition year after year.
Get used to it. It will never stop. USC is one of several teams that lives by a different standard. Anyone with a half a brain that watches CFB has known this for years.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:14 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Get used to it. It will never stop. USC is one of several teams that lives by a different standard. Anyone with a half a brain that watches CFB has known this for years.
I'd love to see some SEC coaches and administrators who believe this to be true. I'd like them to schedule us in a home and home and see if they think the same thing afterwards.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:19 am to loweralabamatrojan
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How is USC's loss to a good team in front of a loud hostile crowd in a Thursday night road game worse than Florida's loss at home to Ole freaking Miss?
Loud hostile crowd???
Seriously...go play at the Swamp or at Neyland...then tell me about that hostile and "loud" Beaver crowd..... Worse comes to worse, call it a push on the losses (even though it wasn't). Who was USC's signature win this year? Who had a tougher schedule? Did USC beat the number one ranked team in the Country in their conference championship? .....oh, that's right, they don't play one.
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As far as "what PSU did to the vaunted SC defense" well, Penn State's a pretty good football team. And I'd probably not be far off the mark in saying USC put the brakes on in the second half. The score could have been much worse if Carroll wanted it that way
This is the biggest bunch of bullshite I have ever heard. So what you are saying is that USC basically let them score at will in the 2nd half. Sure, defenses do that all the time..... Jesus, with all due respect, that is just a stupid statement.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:19 am to tigerdup07
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they have no control over this, man.
Huh???
Its the PAC-10 and the Big 10 that want to keep 'Tradition' and continue playing eachother in the Rose bowl every year. They have ALL the control over this.
Very ignorant statement.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:22 am to loweralabamatrojan
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I'd love to see some SEC coaches and administrators who believe this to be true. I'd like them to schedule us in a home and home and see if they think the same thing afterwards.
Here's the funny thing about this notion.....as much as I'd love to see this happen, the fact is LSU doesn't NEED USC to boost its strength of schedule. Our schedule is brutal in-conference alone. On the other hand, USC absolutely NEEDS to play the Floridas, LSUs, Georgias in order to counteract their bitch arse in-conference schedule.
Again, I think LSU should take all-comers, and I'd love to see this happen. But USC has a LOT more to gain in this arrangement than LSU. Until they get into a conference with an actual pulse, this will always be the case.
(No disrespect to USC, I think they are probably a top 5 team this year. But I don't see them beating Florida.)
This post was edited on 1/2/09 at 9:24 am
Posted on 1/2/09 at 9:36 am to loweralabamatrojan
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I'd love to see some SEC coaches and administrators who believe this to be true. I'd like them to schedule us in a home and home and see if they think the same thing afterwards.
While I agree with your sentiment, it isn't the SEC that has to worry about its teams having the weaker schedule strenght year after year.
Remember in 2003 when LSU played a combined four teams, I think it was, with only 2 victories over BCS teams, yet we STILL had a higher schedule strength than USC?
That is pathetic, but it says a lot about your conference.
I realize this isn't your fault, but the incessant whining and constant media blow jobs are what piss people off. Especially people who follow CFB and understand what I mentioned above.
Enjoy your Rose Bowl victory. It is a great consolation prize for playing a weak schedule and losing a game or two with that schedule.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:37 am to Wyatt
Where did USC whnie? Please show me. PC said e does not think anyone could beat them the way they are playing now. No whine. In the ESPN interview afer the game, he was very respectful of the BCS. Plase show me.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:39 am to tigerman24
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They start the same ole shite every year. That's why everyone is getting sick of USC.
Exactly where did PC whine or complain? Saying he does not think anyone could beat them now is not wining. He was vey respectful of the BCS in a post game interview. You and al oters who sad he whined are incorect.
This post was edited on 1/2/09 at 11:44 am
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:42 am to loweralabamatrojan
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There's no proof that either Oklahoma or Florida is better than USC.
There is no "proof" any team is better than anybody. Is there proof that Utah isn't better than USC. Is there proof that Oregon State isn't better than USC?
Posted on 1/2/09 at 11:56 am to loweralabamatrojan
Didn't USC need the beavers to lose a certain game for them to even make it to the rose bowl? They didn't control their own destiny, not exactly a recipe for the best team in the country.
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:21 pm to Aristo
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Didn't USC need the beavers to lose a certain game for them to even make it to the rose bowl? They didn't control their own destiny, not exactly a recipe for the best team in the country.
So UF and OUdid not need teams to lose games to be where they are?
Posted on 1/2/09 at 12:24 pm to LSUTANGERINE
quote:Did I caim them as the best team in the country.
So UF and OUdid not need teams to lose games to be where they are?
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