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Posted on 11/7/19 at 2:47 pm to Rep520
Your riding the coattails of a corrupt usc program is truly pathetic.
+1? Why?
USC was not a top two team at the end of the season. Why not?
1. USC lost to an unranked, 6 loss team
AND
2. USC only played one ranked team all season, a marginal 3 loss wazzou team
PATHETIC!
+1? Why?
USC was not a top two team at the end of the season. Why not?
1. USC lost to an unranked, 6 loss team
AND
2. USC only played one ranked team all season, a marginal 3 loss wazzou team
PATHETIC!
Posted on 11/7/19 at 2:48 pm to TulaneLSU
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wazzou
Who?
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:01 pm to TulaneLSU
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USC was not a top two team at the end of the season. Why not?
Because an overly complicated formula and computers that were double counting some factors
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USC lost to an unranked, 6 loss team
That’s true but what’s a “worse” loss losing to a 6 loss team by 3 in triple OT or getting crushed by 28 by a 4 loss team?
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USC only played one ranked team all season, a marginal 3 loss wazzou team
If you are using the final poll Oklahoma only played 2 ranked teams. And Washington St finished #9 after beating Texas, the only ranked team OU beat
I am sorry the UCS guy turned down you’re advances
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:03 pm to TulaneLSU
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USC was not a top two team at the end of the season. Why not?
They were ranked #2 for the last 3 weeks of the regular season.
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2. USC only played one ranked team all season, a marginal 3 loss wazzou team
Auburn was a top ten team on the road. Unless that was a down year for the SEC and we should discount all those losers in the SEC west.
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PATHETIC!
It must be embarassing for LSU to have been beaten out in the AP by a pathetic team.
Messing with you aside, here's the difference with our perspectives. I think LSU was a fantastic team that should be proud to have had that 03 season.
I don't need to take away from USC to say that. You do. You clearly don't appear to feel secure in the split title.
But it is a split title, and none of your posts change that. I have no rooting interest in SC, but what happened, happened. It's been 16 years, be happy with a great season and a title.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:09 pm to H-Town Tiger
Even with the voters having so much power in the BCS formula they couldn’t gift USC a trip to the championship game.
They tried.
But the objective results and the cold hard truth of on the field results the formula did not ignore. USC was bolstered in the final BCS rankings by the beauty pageant criteria employed by the human pollsters. But not enough. That’s how pathetic USCs season objectively was.
Lost to an unranked, 6 loss team
Only played one ranked team all seasons
Worst resume for a title “contender” in the modern era. Use the same resume for Miami of Ohio that usc had and you’d be laughed at if you argued for Miami of Ohio’s inclusion in the Nc game.
FACTS!
They tried.
But the objective results and the cold hard truth of on the field results the formula did not ignore. USC was bolstered in the final BCS rankings by the beauty pageant criteria employed by the human pollsters. But not enough. That’s how pathetic USCs season objectively was.
Lost to an unranked, 6 loss team
Only played one ranked team all seasons
Worst resume for a title “contender” in the modern era. Use the same resume for Miami of Ohio that usc had and you’d be laughed at if you argued for Miami of Ohio’s inclusion in the Nc game.
FACTS!
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:09 pm to Rep520
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It's been 16 years, be happy with a great season and a title.
Thank you, I’ve been trying to tell fellow LSU fans this for a long time. I mean it was frustrating that the month leading up to the game was more about the controversy but LSU was in regardless the debate was OU or USC. The sad part is if it was USC, which it would have been with the later BCS formula there would have been zero controversy, none of these dolts would be here arguing OU really should have gone
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:16 pm to TulaneLSU
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USC has zero FB championships in 40+ years
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:20 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Thank you, I’ve been trying to tell fellow LSU fans this for a long time.
I'm an Arizona fan. I'd be so effing happy to split a natty that I wouldn't need anything for years after that.
Controversy came from the system, not the team. Acknowledging both SC and LSU were great doesn't diminish either or diminish the fact they have a claim to what they got.
LSU should be proud of their title. Constantly needing to cut down USC makes it less impressive, IMO.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:26 pm to TulaneLSU
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Even with the voters having so much power in the BCS formula they couldn’t gift USC a trip to the championship game.
but they didn't that was the problem,
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But the objective results and the cold hard truth of on the field results the formula did not ignore.
You should learn the difference between science and scientism. Just because you can create a formula and it spits out results doesn't mean its some objective, universal truth. Its all still SUBJECTIVE. The BCS in 2003 used part polls, part these formulas and part computers, well the computers and the formulas were basically counting the same things, so it was repetitive, and gave OU the edge.
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Worst resume for a title “contender” in the modern era
Link? Also define modern era cause you may want to check BYU which was less than 20 years prior to this
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FACTS!
The only fact is you have an obvious bias against USC.
The sad part is if you are an LSU fan, if LSU had played and beaten USC instead, there would be ZERO controversy, You are defending a system that created the problem
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:30 pm to Rep520
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Controversy came from the system, not the team. Acknowledging both SC and LSU were great doesn't diminish either or diminish the fact they have a claim to what they got.
This is spot on. If they BCS formula that was used after 2003 was used, the game would have been LSU-USC and not a single one of these guys arguing how lousy USC's resume was would have been arguing that then. No one would have argued OU should have been in.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:43 pm to H-Town Tiger
OU played a significantly harder schedule than cupcake laden USC.
OU lost in its conf championship game to a very good Kansas state team, and was quite lackadaisical, as they had already been guaranteed a spot in the title game.
The shock of that evening was that LSU passed USC in the rankings. Had usc stayed at #2 in the rankings there would never have been outcry except by LSU that the title game was OU vs usc. OU was number one regardless going into the conf champ games weekend. For the title game, OU was favored over LSU and would have been favored over usc. The idea that OU didn’t earn a spot in the nc game is bogus.
USC simply didn’t deserve to play in the nc game. The system that usc and the pac 10 agreed to worked. It’s a real shame you’re propping up a team like usc which in 2003 had a pathetic resume for a champ team
OU lost in its conf championship game to a very good Kansas state team, and was quite lackadaisical, as they had already been guaranteed a spot in the title game.
The shock of that evening was that LSU passed USC in the rankings. Had usc stayed at #2 in the rankings there would never have been outcry except by LSU that the title game was OU vs usc. OU was number one regardless going into the conf champ games weekend. For the title game, OU was favored over LSU and would have been favored over usc. The idea that OU didn’t earn a spot in the nc game is bogus.
USC simply didn’t deserve to play in the nc game. The system that usc and the pac 10 agreed to worked. It’s a real shame you’re propping up a team like usc which in 2003 had a pathetic resume for a champ team
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:56 pm to TulaneLSU
Damn you are stupid.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:56 pm to Weagle25
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In a thread where a LSU fan is talking about 2003?
LSU won the BCS, which was the only one that mattered.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 3:59 pm to TH03
True. But this thread isn't about that. It's the OP. He for some reason wanted to start the same thread today that he has started a dozen times already.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 4:06 pm to ctiger69
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Number 3 USC beat number 4 Michigan in the Rose Bowl. 6 days later the AP poll awarded them a trophy.
#1 USC beat #4 Michigan in the Rose Bowl while #2 LSU defeated #3 Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl.
Posted on 11/7/19 at 4:28 pm to RollTide1987
The National Championship Game was #1 OU vs #2 LSU
The absurdity of the ap voters is shown by the fact that 21 AP voters voted LSU #1 the day after LSU demolished #5 UGA in Georgia at the sec champ game. The day after LSU beat #1 OU in the champ game only 17 AP voters voted LSU #1.
The ap punished LSU for beating the #1 team in America! It’s precisely that reason — the capricious, political beauty pageant nature of the AP poll — the BCS was formed by the major conferences who gave it and it alone authority to crown a national champion.
The absurdity of the ap voters is shown by the fact that 21 AP voters voted LSU #1 the day after LSU demolished #5 UGA in Georgia at the sec champ game. The day after LSU beat #1 OU in the champ game only 17 AP voters voted LSU #1.
The ap punished LSU for beating the #1 team in America! It’s precisely that reason — the capricious, political beauty pageant nature of the AP poll — the BCS was formed by the major conferences who gave it and it alone authority to crown a national champion.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 11/7/19 at 4:35 pm to ctiger69
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Number 2 LSU beat number1 Oklahoma and LSU was awarded the BCS national championship trophy at midfield immediately
Wut?
Dude USC was #1 in both polls entering the bowl season.
LSU didn't play the #1 team in the nation, they played the Cooley-Matrix Atari 2600 computer #1 Sagarin team.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 11/7/19 at 4:52 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
OU was number one in the pre-bowl ranking system LSU, OU and usc agreed to before the season started.
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