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Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:00 am to
Posted by Clashmore Mike
Member since Oct 2014
1132 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:00 am to
I love how some of the Notre Dame haters chose WW2 as a reason to bash ND. If anything, they should celebrate the large contribution that ND made in the war effort.

This is why Notre Dame and Navy play every year and why both teams gather in front of the students of each school to sing each school’s Alma Mater after the game. It’s called respect.

I would like to thank the ND bashers for bringing this up and allowing this part of Notre Dame history and tradition to be discussed.





Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:14 am to
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Notre Dame had a loss, they'd be watching everyone else play their way in ahead of them. They have to be perfect damn near every year to get in.





usually, a schedule with

Mich
Mich state
Southern California
Stanford
Va tech
Florida state

Is perceived as between pretty darn good test and ferocious.
They've all been top 25 often and most were top 15 often.

Posted by lawtill
San Antonio
Member since Oct 2018
122 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:41 am to
I'm no ND fan but they are undefeated with no wins over FCS or G5 schools as the others have. They have earned their way in.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
4022 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:49 am to
Fivethirtyeight has ND, OSU and OU in a dog fight for the 3rd and 4th spots if it’s chalk this weekend, and actually has ND as the odd man out. This makes no sense to me.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
89964 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:50 am to
ND doesn't go around playing Arkansas State and the Citadel.

Those are bye weeks for Alabama while ND has to go out and perform.

Who cares if ND gets to sit and watch this week?
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8609 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:24 am to
When some of your clown teams stop playing Murray State and Furman, then we'll have this discussion like an adult.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 9:26 am
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:27 am to
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Notre Dame has to just sit back and watch
Kind of like Bama does routinely? Disclaimer: I hate Notre Dame
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140757 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:31 am to
Except they beat Ball State this year which is a G5 school

I love the misinformation of the daily “I’m jealous of Notre Dame” thread
Posted by SeminoleMarine
Metairie
Member since Nov 2009
3679 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:28 am to
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People can say what they want about their schedule, but they went undefeated. They have every damn right to be in the playoff. Can't ask for much more than that.


UCF says hi
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61431 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:34 am to
quote:

So the War seemed to give A&M a bit of boost in their overall history. Some sacrifice.


A&M has 7 Medal of Honor winners from WWII and sent 20k men to fight. You gonna shite on the Army and Navy teams from that era too?
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 10:36 am
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13763 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:38 am to
quote:

ND doesn't go around playing Arkansas State and the Citadel.

Those are bye weeks for Alabama while ND has to go out and perform.

Who cares if ND gets to sit and watch this week?


Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13763 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:39 am to
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It's why they should be required to participate fully in the ACC if they are going to use them as their quasi conference.



Seems like the ACC and Notre Dame reached an agreement that they both found to be mutually beneficial, who gives a shite what you think about it?
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36530 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:10 pm to
ND’s head coach Frank Leahy (the second-highest winning percentage in D-I history, behind only Knute Rockne) literally left the school in the 1944 and 1945 seasons to be a lieutenant in the Navy. But ND didn’t contribute to the war effort....
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62534 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:27 pm to
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ND’s head coach Frank Leahy (the second-highest winning percentage in D-I history, behind only Knute Rockne) literally left the school in the 1944 and 1945 seasons to be a lieutenant in the Navy. But ND didn’t contribute to the war effort
In 1941 Bear Bryant accepted his first head coaching position at the University of Arkansas in his home state. But shortly after, Pearl Harbor happened and Bear immediately resigned before coaching a game to enlist
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 2:28 pm
Posted by dawg4lyfe
Member since May 2012
11662 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:32 pm to
They played plenty of teams who are usually top25 teams. They beat the ranked teams on their schedule. Not their fault USC, Stanford and Virginia Tech were hot garbage this year. Still beat Michigan, a solid Syracuse team, Northwestern(playing in the big 10 title game)
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36530 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:48 pm to
When did I say Bear didn’t (or say he didn’t serve for longer)? You/others claimed ND didn’t contribute at all to the war effort. That’s false. The head coach literally didn’t coach for two years because he was serving. ND also housed the navy/had the navy use its campus as training grounds. Did the University of Alabama do that? You said ND only won because of the war. ND won four championships in the 40s. One was during the war, but the other three were after it.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12564 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 2:56 pm to
There is no way ND is hanging with Alabama or Clemson. I think the Irish would lose to Georgia and Ohio state.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36530 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 3:11 pm to
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Fivethirtyeight has ND, OSU and OU in a dog fight for the 3rd and 4th spots if it’s chalk this weekend, and actually has ND as the odd man out. This makes no sense to me.



538’s algorithm puts too much weight on conference championships. It’s technically an official factor per the committee, but the committee hasn’t really shown in the past it’s actually used as a differentiator, particularly if the non-conference champ has fewer losses than the conference champ (OSU vs. PSU in 2016, Bama vs. OSU last year). Further, given that ND can’t win a conference championship (which I doubt 538 can or does account for in its algorithm), it skews heavily against ND. But ND is 100% in.
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 3:14 pm
Posted by thompy
Memphis,TN
Member since Jun 2012
98 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 3:11 pm to
I don't get the ND hate this year. Their win against Michigan is as good or better than anything Bama, Clemson or UGA have on their resume. Syracuse and Stanford were decent wins. Its not ND's fault that Florida State, USC and Va. Tech were all garbage. I think they'd lose to Bama, Clemson, or UGA, but they ran the table, so they're in
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 3:19 pm
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Considering Clemson and Bama would still be in if they lost, I'd say it's a wash


Clemson is out if they lose, unless Ohio State and Oklahoma also lose.
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