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re: 1923 season two (SPOILERS)
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:22 pm to Bamatab
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:22 pm to Bamatab
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season two premiere of the prequel averaged 5.4 million global viewers, up 146% from year one (2.2 million)
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The streamer also says the S2 opener that dropped Feb. 23 marked the biggest original premiere in Paramount+ history
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:33 pm to 3nOut
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Hostiles is one of my favorite Westerns in the last few years and I know it's going to talk about and deal with the mistreatment of tribes, but that's the focus of the movie. So far this just seems shoehorned in for "woke points"
Sheridan made it very clear in Yellowstone that is he is extremely woke when it comes to Indians. He's pushing even harder with 1923.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:39 pm to BuckyCheese
I've only seen the first 3 episodes of 1923 but is showing Indians being treated badly really woke? I thought it was pretty much an accepted part of history that that happened.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:43 pm to BuckyCheese
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he is extremely woke when it comes to Indians
eh, in 1883 he portrayed both sides as pretty brutal.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:26 pm to Corinthians420
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I thought it was pretty much an accepted part of history that that happened.
There is no evidence to support killings at Catholic boarding schools as shown in the show and the related Canadian Catholic schools "accepted history" has been debunked after Trudeau spent millions in a failed attempt to prove it true.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:27 pm to MorbidTheClown
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eh, in 1883 he portrayed both sides as pretty brutal.
He had Chief Raging Cock marry the pretty blonde daughter with little pushback by the parents.
Yeah, ok.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:37 pm to BuckyCheese
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There is no evidence to support killings at Catholic boarding schools as shown in the show and the related Canadian Catholic schools "accepted history" has been debunked after Trudeau spent millions in a failed attempt to prove it true.
This.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:24 am to BuckyCheese
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He had Chief Raging Cock marry the pretty blonde daughter with little pushback by the parents.
Yeah, ok.
i wonder who killed the daughter?
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:29 am to Bamatab
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I mean the 1923 Dutton storyline, not the Yellowstone series Dutton storyline. It better tie-in with this series' Dutton storyline, because if not it's just a huge waste of time
Spencer is in Galveston. They made a point to say the Indian girl is in Texas, not Oklahoma.
Seems like Spencer could run into them on his trip back, help her with the priest/hired gun issue, etc., then they tag along back to Montana.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:40 am to Sus-Scrofa
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Spencer is in Galveston. They made a point to say the Indian girl is in Texas, not Oklahoma.
Seems like Spencer could run into them on his trip back, help her with the priest/hired gun issue, etc., then they tag along back to Montana.
this makes sense. And, who else would you want to accompany you on that trip? Spencer is a survivor.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 10:27 am
Posted on 2/27/25 at 8:28 am to Sus-Scrofa
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Seems like Spencer could run into them on his trip back, help her with the priest/hired gun issue, etc., then they tag along back to Montana.
If she connects with Spencer for the trip back to Montana, then her story would make sense for the show for sure. Hopefully that is where they are going with her story.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:51 am to Bamatab
Just started episode 1 of season 2 and my god the first 2 scenes are bad. That cgi mountain lion 
and the weird sexual domination role playing shite with the old guy wtf
acting is trash for the most part.
This show is so disappointing. Should be so much better than it is.
I'll try and push through though.
and the weird sexual domination role playing shite with the old guy wtf
acting is trash for the most part.
This show is so disappointing. Should be so much better than it is.
I'll try and push through though.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 9:52 am
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:20 am to BuckyCheese
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Sheridan made it very clear in Yellowstone that is he is extremely woke when it comes to Indians. He's pushing even harder with 1923.
yeah. i watched Wind River and Hostiles back to back. that was a pair of depressing evenings.
both were definitely (and rightly so) taking the side of the oppressed. They also were two of my favorite movies towards the end of the 2010s.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 10:25 am
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:30 am to BuckyCheese
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There is no evidence to support killings at Catholic boarding schools as shown in the show and the related Canadian Catholic schools "accepted history" has been debunked after Trudeau spent millions in a failed attempt to prove it true.
Just rampant sexual abuse and lots of graves, but no "evidence" that any killings occurred.
I get that there's a push to de-Zinn US history these days and pretend that all of the atrocities that we actually committed didn't happen or have been disproven... but the Native Americans got repeatedly screwed in a variety of ways.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:37 am to BuckyCheese
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I thought it was pretty much an accepted part of history that that happened.
There is no evidence to support killings at Catholic boarding schools as shown in the show and the related Canadian Catholic schools "accepted history" has been debunked after Trudeau spent millions in a failed attempt to prove it true.
i 100% believe that mistreatment (even as bad or worse as depicted in 1923) happened at these schools, but the narratives surrounding it in the last decade were extremely exaggerated.
around 2012-2013 we decided to relitigate every bad thing done in the past by Western Liberal Democracies.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 10:55 am to hogfly
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I get that there's a push to de-Zinn US history these days and pretend that all of the atrocities that we actually committed didn't happen or have been disproven... but the Native Americans got repeatedly screwed in a variety of ways.
i don't see anybody saying that atrocities were not committed. or that some graves don't exist.
it's just that the powder keg that kicked this off was proven to be false (at least in Canada.)
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just like the things that lead to the rise of BLM.
yes racism exists. yes police have 100% been racist in their policing at times.
nobody said "hands up don't shoot" in Ferguson. George Floyd said "i can't breathe" before he was on the ground and while he was in the back of the cruiser.
entire movements are built on "starting a conversation" instead of factual events.
Posted on 2/28/25 at 2:09 pm to hogfly
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Just rampant sexual abuse and lots of graves, but no "evidence" that any killings occurred.
A claim of 400 over 150 years is rampant? When most Indians died of disease versus bullets?
Yeah, I'm not impressed.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 7:14 am to CU_Tigers4life
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I stumbled on a possible financial way for Jacob to pay the taxes on the Ranch.
The fellow Spencer saved from the attack said his cousin's last name was Maceo from Galveston and he would be rewarded for saving his life.
Well, as it turns out, the Maceo Organization was a huge crime syndicate that was a powerful bootlegging and gambling entity that pretty much had their hands in all vice's. It's an interesting read if you ever want to take a look.
Maceo Crime Organization Of Galveston
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They did indeed tie the actual Maceo Crime family of Galveston into the story with Spencer. Clever writing.
Spencer could have saved himself an arse whipping with a little diplomacy and Jacob made a whooper of a mistake with regards to the blizzard.
Good episode.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 9:34 am to CU_Tigers4life
Another solid episode. Thought Spencer beating up his host in the middle of that restaurant was just dumb and not s
Guess they really aren’t getting to Montana until the end..
Guess they really aren’t getting to Montana until the end..
Posted on 3/2/25 at 7:50 pm to TheJunction
He’s headed to fort worth. But, i’m guessing that won’t be an easy trip. Money for the cops who can be bribed, a gun for those who can’t
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