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re: Anime fanbases be acting like their [sic] in gangs or something
Posted on 8/6/25 at 4:19 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 8/6/25 at 4:19 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I mean, those are OK. The bottom 2 aren't really what I have in mind when making my criticism. And I'm not talking about just looking at drawings. I'm talking about the dumb shows.
Well you said manga so I included manga panels
Posted on 8/6/25 at 4:34 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I continue to ask: how can anyone, anywhere from any walk of life take to watch anime?
I'm with you on this, I've never understood the appeal of anime.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:31 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I mean, those are OK. The bottom 2 aren't really what I have in mind when making my criticism. And I'm not talking about just looking at drawings. I'm talking about the dumb shows.
I'm talking about stuff like Pokemon, Speed Racer and Dragonball Z. Is there where we do the Radiohead/Creep thing and say that stuff doesn't count as canon?
I don’t like any of that shite either and I think you are far too much stereotyping anime, which granted makes it easy to do. Like when I saw the Pokemon anime in like 6th grade, I hated it so much I stopped playing the game and found it lame until well into my mid-20s (the game that is, the anime is still cringeworthy awful).
Watch Miyazaki’s films though. Very accessible for Western audiences and like half of them take place in Europe anyway. I would recommend Spirited Away, but it may initially be too weird for your first intro into anime already despising it. I always recommend someone watches Naussica before watching Princess Mononoke, but I’m going to make an exception here because the wolf and boar gods are awesome in that movie more so than the bug gods in Naussica (which may weird a first time anime watcher).
If you loved the Lion King, you will love Princess Mononoke. Now it’s up there on the most violent animated movies ever made and people like prostitutes are major characters in the movie, so don’t show this to an under-9 child (I’d recommend the rest of the Ghibli filmography save for maybe Grave of the Fireflies for that age range).
Give that one a shot, because I truly believe it’s the greatest animated movie ever made. It’s a real treat and gets right where so many blockbusters absolutely fail:
Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:11 pm to OMLandshark
Dragonball Z and Pokemon are shonen anime. Shonen is a genre that is all about superheros fighting, training, and the power of friendship. It’s western equivalent would be superhero cartoons or GI Joe. Most of them are aimed at 8-12 year old boys. Pokemon is usually targeted at a slightly younger audience while DBZ skews slightly older. At 6th grade, those animes should already seem somewhat tedious or childish to you because they’re literally aimed at children younger than you. There are more adult oriented shonen, but the most popular ones are largely aimed at children. Naruto, Yu Yu Hakisho, Inuyasha, Sailor Moon, My Hero Academia, etc are all shonen in one form or another. I largely grew out of the genre by the time I left middle school. Most of the shows that really stuck with me as an adult were sci-fy thrillers, slice of life rom coms, fantasy series, or straight up comedy/parody series that aren’t meant to be taken seriously.
Assuming all anime is as childish as pokemon would be like watching cocomelon at age 12 and thinking “wow, western animation is just for babies!” Yeah, some of it literally is.
Assuming all anime is as childish as pokemon would be like watching cocomelon at age 12 and thinking “wow, western animation is just for babies!” Yeah, some of it literally is.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 8/7/25 at 8:56 am to kingbob
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The reality is that the people who grow up to be "influencers", "taste-makers", and "critics" usually weren't the mainstream popular kids in high school. It's the weird artsy or alternative kids who grow up to be the pop culture historians who retroactively define what was cool to the next generation 20 years later.
Anime (outside of sorta Dragon Ball Z) wasn't cool with the jocks or the preppy kids. Those people are now doctors, lawyers, blue collar workers, teachers, small business owners, etc. It was popular with the weird theater kids, the band geeks, the burnouts, and the artsy kids. Those are the people who grow up to be bloggers, journalists, and youtubers.
100%, this was definitely part of my theory too.
People who kept to themselves and didn't have much influence on the culture at my middle or high school may not be in the same life position as an adult. Nerdiness if you will, has gone mainstream for sure over the last 20-30 years.
And with that comes the mainstreaming of the content itself, and people probably project its popularity retrospectively.
I'm right at the edge of SpongeBob's popularity, but I've heard people younger than me say the same there.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:11 am to OMLandshark
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Miyazaki’s filmography says hello.
Spirited Away is such a beautiful film..
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:24 am to Brosef Stalin
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A lot of the 80s cartoons were drawn by Japanese animation studios so if you grew up then you would already by accustomed to that style. Shows like Voltron and Thundercats aren't that far off from anime.
And some of them were originally Japanese shows that were taken and repurposed for American audiences. Like Robotech (originally Macross), Battle of the Planets (originally Gatchaman), and the various Voltrons were taken from different anime series.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:25 am to Big Scrub TX
I'm at the tail end of Bill Murray's generation.
Murray's SNL monologue:
I can appreciate the Miyazaki films, the more linear series like Cowboy Bebop and Paranoia Agent, and I still have nostalgia for Gigantor and Speed Racer, but I'll never be the anime expert that my son is.
Murray's SNL monologue:
quote:Growing up with Gigantor, then Speed Racer came along, but then with the 80's we saw the anime and manga stuff beginning to appear in the comic shops. By the 90's it was everywhere. When Toonami hit in the late 90's you had teens who were experts or who'd at least sampled anime growing up.
While we were sleeping late, hanging in on Saturday mornings, the Japanese took away our cartoon shows! I mean, when you saw “Speed Racer”, didn’t something go, “Wait a second!”
I can appreciate the Miyazaki films, the more linear series like Cowboy Bebop and Paranoia Agent, and I still have nostalgia for Gigantor and Speed Racer, but I'll never be the anime expert that my son is.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:45 am to kingbob
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I believe Frieren (fantasy), Vinland Saga (historical fiction), and Spy x Family (espionage/family comedy) are three very recent series that would be great introductions to anime for adults who have watched any anime before.
Eh I think something like Solo Leveling or Kaiju No. 8 has a better shot of capturing someone who has never watched anime. If you don't find either of those shows entertaining I just can't help you, they are straight to the point action thrill rides with some pretty impressive fights.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:09 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:Said by the sneering "winners" who are in the comics and cards shop to buy junk wax baseball cards in the 90's.
I continue to ask: how can anyone, anywhere from any walk of life take to watch anime?
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:19 am to Fewer Kilometers
quote:nah
Said by the sneering "winners" who are in the comics and cards shop to buy junk wax baseball cards in the 90's.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:19 am to OMLandshark
quote:I might give it a whirl, but I'll be honest: I just find the actual animation itself offputting before we even start talking about storytelling.
Give that one a shot, because I truly believe it’s the greatest animated movie ever made. It’s a real treat and gets right where so many blockbusters absolutely fail:
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:10 pm to Big Scrub TX
You got em writing novels in here defending anime. 
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:00 pm to hiltacular
Solo Leveling is just a gateway anime to the most over the top weeb series of all time: Sister Leveling 
Posted on 8/7/25 at 1:08 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I continue to ask: how can anyone, anywhere from any walk of life take to watch anime?
Anime (One Piece) seems to be inspiring the average citizen of Indonesia to stand up against their government.
Yahoo/BBC Article
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In the same way the pirates in the series, led by their leader Monkey D Luffy, raise the Jolly Rogers as a symbol of freedom against their government, some Indonesian residents say raising the flag is a "symbol that we love this country, but don't completely agree with its policies".
The anime reflects the injustice and inequality that Indonesians experience, said Ali Maulana, a resident of Jayapura city in the Papua province.
"Even though this country is officially independent, many of us have not truly experienced that freedom in our daily lives," he told BBC Indonesian.
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