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Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:55 pm to
Posted by TechBullDawg
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 4:55 pm to
It explains s why Mike was so angry with Walt in BB. Him having to kill Werner was the saddest and also, most brilliantly acted scene of the story universe. Although unnecessary, the entire cast showed up to see it being filmed.
This post was edited on 2/7/26 at 4:56 pm
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 7:17 pm to
Youre right. I was mistaken
Posted by JinFL
Duuuval
Member since Oct 2004
4413 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 7:51 pm to
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BCS started way to slow and they drug out the electricity allergy way too long


Exactly my problem, I never did get back into after the first 3 episodes. I may give it another try. BB is one of my top 5 of all time.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/7/26 at 7:53 pm to
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Him having to kill Werner was the saddest and also, most brilliantly acted scene of the story


It was good, but his speech about his son to his DIL was the best acting scene in either series.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
18763 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 8:01 pm to
Decent show, but the ending was poor.
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
6741 posts
Posted on 2/7/26 at 8:46 pm to
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Decent show, but the ending was poor.
Great show, but I hated the ending.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84314 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 5:59 am to
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Great show, but I hated the ending.


Agree, but when you are comparing it to quite possibly the best 3 episode run, including best episode of any series, and a A+ finale with BB, it wasn't going to stack up no matter what.

They are both amazing
Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
3850 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 11:56 am to
Lalo was the best character the show. Show should have ended with his death.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21582 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 3:42 pm to
I’m definitely in the minority, but I thought the final episodes of BCS were brilliant. The show creators made one of the most creative and unique story arc redemption stories in all of dramatic arts, IMO.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84314 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 3:46 pm to
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redemption stories


Just curious, how did he redeem himself?

If you're going to say, he threw himself on the grenade to save Kim, the only reason she was on a grenade was bc he lied to get her to his hearing and then he announced it was all a lie.

He didn't do anything to take away from her admission of guilt to Howard's wife.

It wasn't comparitive to Walt's phone call to Skylar where he protected her.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21582 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 4:06 pm to
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If you're going to say, he threw himself on the grenade to save Kim, the only reason she was on a grenade was bc he lied to get her to his hearing and then he announced it was all a lie. He didn't do anything to take away from her admission of guilt to Howard's wife.


Threw himself on a grenade is not how I would phrase it.

Jimmy/Saul was a duality of personality, as was Kim the brilliant lawyer / Kim the mischievous and rebellious teenager in a woman’s body.

The murder of Howard rocked them both, but they handled it in different ways. Kim went into full regression mode. She was a shell of a person, hiding physically and emotionally.

Jimmy went into a shell too. He became Gene.

Only when his existence was threatened, he became Only Saul again, a very reckless and vindictive version.

It was the love of Kim, and Kim’s act of admission, that jolted Jimmy to come back into the real person he was supposed to be.

Saul was willing and prepared to pull every immoral and manipulative trick to get out of (or greatly reduce) his consequence. It was his love and respect for Kim, and his guilt for bringing out the worst in her, that convinced him to take responsibility (or sorts) for the death of Howard.

Yes, Slippin’ Jimmy (Saul) “lost”, but he won the love and respect of Kim back. The world will forever see them for the monsters they became (especially Jimmy), but the two of them know that they won a victory over their darker selves.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84314 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 4:29 pm to
Got it. To each his own, I don’t see it as him redeeming himself. He was still the same Jimmy, although like I mentioned earlier, they neutered him bc Jimmy would have taken the 7yrs and went to prison scheming his next move.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32297 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 4:43 pm to
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BCS > BB by a lot.

And I loved BB.


You saying by a lot and BCS > BB are both very untrue.

And like someone mentioned earlier while I think BB is better, the best character of either show to me was Lalo.
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 4:46 pm
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21582 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 4:58 pm to
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they neutered him bc Jimmy would have taken the 7yrs and went to prison scheming his next move.


Well, as you say, to each his own.

I think the best way to understand Jimmy is as a tragic figure. “Slippin’ Jimmy” and later, Saul Goodman, were the manifestations of his broken self.

Chuck was a tragic figure as well. Think about how smart and accomplished Chuck was as a lawyer, and yet he was a miserable person. He went to extremes and it cost him his relationship with his wife, whom he dearly loved.

But even more so, Chuck’s anger at and jealousy of Jimmy was palpable and ultimately his undoing.

Jimmy didn’t apply himself, and he certainly didn’t conform to laws or to norms, but both he and Chuck knew that Jimmy was the smarter one of the two.

It was their battling that did them both in, and it seemed that Jimmy was prepared to properly join Chuck’s world as a legitimate lawyer but Chuck undermined him.

We come to realize that Chuck threw Howard under the bus, so to speak, by making Jimmy think it was Howard who blocked him at HHM. Chuck was therefore partially responsible for Jimmy’s treatment of Howard that got Howard killed. Howard would have hired Jimmy at HHM, and the story arc would have been very different.

If Jimmy (Saul) would have gotten over on everyone in the end, and received a ridiculously short sentence, the play would have been a tragedy. Because Jimmy was able to overcome his inner Saul, by finding true love and acceptance from Kim, the play was a comedy (in the Greek duality model).
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 4:59 pm
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10921 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:16 pm to
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Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10921 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:17 pm to
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It was good, but his speech about his son to his DIL was the best acting scene in either series


This.

I’d argue it’s one of the best acted scenes ever.
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