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Posted on 6/14/10 at 12:18 am to
Posted by Beastwood
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 12:18 am to
Plus at the very of the encore, the promo for next season says some shite like "Jesse has to deal with murdering Gale"

I did think for a split second that he moved his gun to the side, but it could have just been the camera moving down the barrel of the gun. I'll have to watch it again.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 7:02 am to
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But is the DEA going to believe Jesse, the methhead who was assaulted by Hank?


He could take them to the lab and show them. However, I'm beginning to wonder who the Chinese people are and what that business at the beginning was all about. Are they his chemical suppliers? Who were the Mexicans Mike killed?
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 7:08 am to
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Interview with Vince Gilligan confirming Jesse shot Gale.


This just makes me think even more that it was not Gael. Why would Gilligan spoil a season ending cliffhanger?

I don't think he did. I think he laid some smoke so people will be shocked next season.

It clearly looked like he moved the gun and shot someone behind Gael.

I do think the loud music would be odd with Gus there, so my belief it was Gus is not real strong.

Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 7:16 am to
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"Jesse has to deal with murdering Gale"


Walt is really in a bind if this is true. What's to stop Gus from retaliating for the murder of Gale by murdering Walt's entire family? I could see Gus forcing Walt to watch the execution Skyler, Junior, and Holly, yet leaving Walt alive; he knows that family is more important to Walt than money, so it would make sense to take away what's most important to him.

Gus, Mike, and Victor will have to die. I really don't see how Walt is going to get out of his current predicament. Perhaps Mike will have a change of heart, but perhaps he's standing by his "no more half measures" with Walt.
This post was edited on 6/14/10 at 8:46 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 7:19 am to
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Interview with Vince Gilligan confirming Jesse shot Gale.


Hmmm...you and I drew different conclusions. I'm not saying he didn't kill Gale, but he didn't say he did. Am I missing something?
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 7:46 am to
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Hmmm...you and I drew different conclusions. I'm not saying he didn't kill Gale, but he didn't say he did. Am I missing something?



Actually, now that I read the interview he makes it pretty clear Jesse killed Gael.

quote:

Gilligan notes a commonality: Innocent life is lost because of Walt's actions.


quote:

Vince Gilligan tells TVGuide.com. "Not only to murder someone who is basically an innocent, but to do it for the best of reasons. To be loyal to Walt and keep Walt alive, he does this absolutely despicable, terrible thing. Dramatically, it presents us with potentially limitless opportunity for drama in Season 4."


Not sure why he would come right out and tell us what happened.
Posted by lsufanintexas
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 8:15 am to
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Not sure why he would come right out and tell us what happened.


Because he's not assuming his audience is stupid. It's clear that Jesse killed Gail.

Vince G. isn't pulling a Soprano's on us guys.

Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63186 posts
Posted on 6/14/10 at 8:17 am to
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Actually, now that I read the interview he makes it pretty clear Jesse killed Gael.


quote:

VG: Gotcha. That’s interesting, because I’m hearing that from some folks, that question. To me, for what it’s worth, it’s not actually meant to be ambiguous. It’s meant to be, “Oh my god, Jesse shot poor Gale.” But I’m realizing now that when people see the camera come dollying around so it’s looking down the barrel of the gun, some are reading that as maybe he’s changing his point of aim. But that’s not what we intended. Apparently it’s not as clear as I thought it would be. [Laughs.]

AVC: Well, now you can still change your mind in the off-season.

quote:

VG: Maybe that’s the universe telling me I should. “Don’t kill Gale, he’s such a great guy!”

AVC: But it is still a cliffhanger in that there are a lot of balls in the air and the audience doesn’t know when or how they’re going to fall.


It sounds like he could be "un-killed."
This post was edited on 6/14/10 at 8:41 am
Posted by jojothetireguy
Live out in Coconut Grove
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 8:49 am to
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He shot ole boy coming from the back of the apartment


this, i think Victor is gone
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33663 posts
Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:15 am to
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Perhaps Mike will have a change of heart


they are definately trying to make him appear human with showing him dropping off his grandaughter.

He also gave Walt the heads up about working for Gus instead of Saul-so he has a "code of ethics".

He probably gained some type of respect for Walt for his cunning and his unusually large balls!
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
85842 posts
Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:21 am to
I put it in slo mo and it was clear that the camera moved. Obviously, that was pretty dramatic, having Jesse pointing the gun directly at YOU, the viewer, as tears streamed down his face, a second before he kills a largely innocent man.

The thing about this series, is the transformation of the characters since episode one. Events have transpired that have brought them to personal ruin, and utter despair.

Next season the transformation will be complete, evil will have transcended good, and the "good part" of Walt & Jesse will be almost an affectation, as they will react from their souls, which are now black.

In other words, the walk over to The Dark Side is complete.

Next season should be about hubris, not internal conflict.

IMHO.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33663 posts
Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:22 am to
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so they made it seem like this was lasting til 10:47 on DVR so I'd be tricked into recording some shite called Rubicon? fricking weak.


I agree wholeheartedly.

AMC can suck an aids dick for leading us all to believe the show was longer. At 9:45 I am thinking, "Alright there's still an hour left!".
Then bang and the fricking season is over.

I don't watch Madmen just because they show it after my show and I will have to hear rave reviews about this new shite to ever give it the time of day.

Bush league move by AMC.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:23 am to
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Did you notice Jessie turned the gun to the side and shot?


The camera rotated in front of the gun. He didn't turn the gun.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33663 posts
Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:32 am to
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kills a largely innocent man.

why is Gale/Gael perceived as an innocent. he fricking cooks meth that gets sold to kids.

Just because the dude is a big pussy who probably wet his pants while standing at the door with Jessie doesn't mean he is innocent in any way.
It makes him more dispicable to me. It also makes him more of a risk to everyone else involved. He would rat out everyone while peeing his pants during a police interogation.

The only way he's an innocent is if he is some kind of DEA informant.

None of these characters are innocent, not Walt, not Gus, not Jessie, not Skyler. They put poison on the streets.


This post was edited on 6/14/10 at 9:44 am
Posted by HeadSlash
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/14/10 at 9:45 am to
quote:

kills a largely innocent man.


why is Gale/Gael perceived as an innocent. he fricking cooks meth that gets sold to kids.
quote:

None of these characters are innocent, not Walt, not Gus, not Jessie, not Skyler. They put poison on the streets.



THIS, only Jr and Holly innocent.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85842 posts
Posted on 6/14/10 at 10:07 am to
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largely innocent


Thats why I put the qualifier in assface.

In JESSE's/GUS'S/MIKE's?/WALT'S world he is LARGELY INNOCENT.

Chill the frick out, Captain Obvious.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41250 posts
Posted on 6/14/10 at 10:10 am to
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33663 posts
Posted on 6/14/10 at 10:18 am to
I know I responded to your post but I wasn't singling you out.

Even Gilligan made reference to him being a nice guy.

I'm just kind of sick of so many on here trying to make these people into nice guys.

Many were defending shite Gus was doing early on and talking about him respecting/liking Walt.

Thanks for being an adult by starting a bunch of name calling. Real mature on your part.

probablty what Gale would have done on the internet.
Posted by EliPorter
Member since Feb 2010
2001 posts
Posted on 6/14/10 at 10:23 am to
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Interview with Vince Gilligan confirming Jesse shot Gale.


Really?

Whats the deal with people lately not putting spoiler alerts in their messages???? Get the f--- out the thread with that s--.
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
1914 posts
Posted on 6/14/10 at 10:40 am to
So did anyone watch Rubicon?

I was a little pissed about the quick ending of Breaking Bad. But I think that it was actually more shocking because it ended 45 minutes before I thought it would. Cool ending.

I watched the Rubicon pilot. It was a little slow, but I really liked it. The theme of the show, or at least what the main characters do, is something that interests me. Has to be really smart writing or it will fail in a big way, but so far so good. I was disappointed it doesn't start until August. Kind of like A Brilliant Mind without the hallucinations maybe.

AMC seems to pick up good shows. Breaking Bad is great. I've never watched Mad Men (subject doesn't appeal to me) but everyone seems to love it. Hopefully Rubicon is another hit.
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