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re: Casting has officially begun on Ryan Coogler’s “X-Files” reboot

Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38572 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:33 pm to
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If it's up for sale, yes. Why do we care what others create and consume?


Because art has meaning. If it does, then X-Files isn't something that can just be used for anyone's pleasure, commercially. It has a meaning, a fandom, a culture that is relevant.

Everything as a piece of revenue. Look, I get you may like that empty, meaningless world that that would create because profits such and such.

It's just not the one I'd prefer or champion.

It means nothing is actually real. Nothing is actually owned. Nothing has a meaning. X-Files doesn't actually mean "Quirky, Episodic Science Fiction show about conspiracy theories, aliens and myth at play in the modern world featuring a mismatched duo of heroes."

It just means "Science Fiction vehicle for anyone's take on science fiction and [insert social message here]."

It means nothing more than a title. I know some people believe in that, I just believe those people have no actual values or a belief in art.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:36 pm to
Won’t be watching
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2831 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:38 pm to
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Because art has meaning. If it does, then X-Files isn't something that can just be used for anyone's pleasure, commercially. It has a meaning, a fandom, a culture that is relevant.

X-Files is commerical art designed for consumption. And it's still available to you, the fans, the culture.

But, you don't own that art. The people that do have allowed for someone to reimagine the concept. Nothing is being replaced.

Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38572 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:47 pm to
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X-Files is commerical art designed for consumption.


So it's art, it's a narrative. Yes

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And it's still available to you, the fans, the culture.


It's not a question of availability.

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But, you don't own that art.


Never said I did.

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The people that do have allowed for someone to reimagine the concept.


I know, but that means X-Files has no meaning, no identity.

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Nothing is being replaced.



Replaced is the wrong word.



Like I said, I get it. You don't have to try to convince me, I understand that some people would prefer a world where every single product can mean whatever they want it to mean. But, again, that's just an empty world with no shared meaning. I don't expect you to agree that it's a bad thing, but that's what it is. To me, it's bad.


I like Coogler, and like I said, if he wants to do a new generation thing a la Creed and pay respect to the show, keep it in world, etc. Great. Creed and the ensuing movies were pretty good.

If he wants to take it and make it his own thing, especially if it comes with politicization and all the mess that leaves behind.


No one is stopping anyone from making a new science fiction show about conspiracies and aliens. Why does it HAVE to be X-Files if it isn't going to be "X-Files?"

Well, because SOME people, maybe Coogler, maybe not, want to twist things, remove them from the cultural consciousness, make it their own thing.

Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2831 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:49 pm to
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The people that do have allowed for someone to reimagine the concept.


I know, but that means X-Files has no meaning, no identity.



If someone remixed Michael Jackson's Thriller, are you saying the original would cease to have identity?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
129064 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:51 pm to
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Doesn't want blacks in the whites only films.
Doesn't want blacks to create films starring blacks.


huh
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2831 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 3:57 pm to
Some people are making snide remarks because of the potential character hires. Doesn't make sense considering the original cast is not being replaced. His vision is in the same continuity as the original, but with entirely new characters.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
67256 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 4:18 pm to
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His vision is in the same continuity as the original, but with entirely new characters.


Why not just create his own thing? Why does he need the X-Files IP to prop it up?

We've been through the distant reboot with different cast, writers, and directors thing many times and it almost never works.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8376 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 4:24 pm to
Can they frick off with the reboots already? Every reboot is arse
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8376 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 4:26 pm to
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Why not just create his own thing? Why does he need the X-Files IP to prop it up?


Exactly this. Do your own thing, or adapt a novel or something. Reboots are always going to be directly compared to the beloved original and will never be able to satisfy the built in audience.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
82921 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 4:28 pm to
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Danielle Deadwyler to Star
Dang. . .anti-wokes were right again

Any takers on the great overarching conspiracy being white supremacy?
This post was edited on 2/23/26 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38572 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 4:33 pm to
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Why not just create his own thing? Why does he need the X-Files IP to prop it up?



People who support this stuff can never answer this question. Or it's a lame version of the above: "But [insert property here] doesn't belong to you." They always go to belonging, rather than what a piece of culture is, and why it is a piece of culture in the first place.

They think it's just a title, and a group of people, and an object to gain revenue from. The X-Files doesn't exist as a unique thing. it is "Whatever you want it to mean to you."

F-ing Deconstruction and Post-modernism. It is a virus on the world.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2831 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 4:50 pm to
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People who support this stuff can never answer this question. Or it's a lame version of the above: "But [insert property here] doesn't belong to you." They always go to belonging, rather than what a piece of culture is, and why it is a piece of culture in the first place.

I can answer. Because he can. Because he has the means and people who believe in his vision have the means and the will to put THEIR money where their mouth is. No one is forcing you to watch. Consumers eat what's available.

Gatekeepers are the weirdest people alive.
This post was edited on 2/23/26 at 4:51 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
67256 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 4:51 pm to
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I can answer. Because he can.

Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2831 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 5:01 pm to
Green apple blow pops were amazing when I was a kid. Imagine my surprise when those commies ruined it by releasing blue raspberry.

The Departed ruined Infernal Affairs.
The Coen Bros ruined True Grit.
This post was edited on 2/23/26 at 5:05 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38196 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 5:05 pm to
So the guy who respectfully continued and revitalized the Rocky franchise wants to do the same with The X-Files, and people are pissed because why?

I'd love to know at what point do these franchises become pristine keepsakes that are to remain untouched? Because the originators of those two franchises milked them for every penny they could.

I was fricking obsessed with the X-Files, but I'm able to dismiss the Mulderless and Scullyless seasons, the boring movies, and the other misses. If this new venture sucks I'm sure I'll still have the same love for the original.
Posted by Kinderman
Member since Oct 2023
1337 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 5:08 pm to
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Why not just create his own thing? Why does he need the X-Files IP to prop it up?

And it’s equally strange because Coogler already showed with Sinners that he can make an original IP that’s successful. Imagine they didn’t let him make Sinners and told him to just race-swap The Lost Boys instead. Hollywood still thinks you need a recognizable IP when it’s been shown over and over that audiences will gravitate towards stuff they like if it’s good, even if it’s a brand new story.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38196 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 5:08 pm to
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Green apple blow pops were amazing when I was a kid. Imagine my surprise when those commies ruined it by releasing blue raspberry.

The Departed ruined Infernal Affairs.
The Coen Bros ruined True Grit.
There are two absolutes in this world.

Vanilla Ice permanently damaged the world's trust in themselves when he abused the opening to Under Pressure.

And the same with Kid Rock and Sweet Home Alabama.

Other than that, every other franchise is fair game.
Posted by Gras Doux
Member since Feb 2026
363 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 5:09 pm to
the same usual suspects are the only ones on board with this. Who would have thought.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
2831 posts
Posted on 2/23/26 at 5:11 pm to
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the same usual suspects are the only ones on board with this. Who would have thought.

Point of pride for me.
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