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re: Gladiator 2 (now with spoilers)
Posted on 11/30/24 at 12:20 pm to biglego
Posted on 11/30/24 at 12:20 pm to biglego
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Denzel looks like bad casting in the previews. Like he sounds like some dude from New Jersey
Of all the things to criticize in this movie, Denzel's accent ain't it. It's not like anyone in the first movie tried to speak w/the correct regional accents anyway. Russell Crowe spoke like his normal Aussie self even though he was playing a Spaniard.
Now... having people read a fricking newspaper when the printing press was over 1200 years from being invented??? Yeah holy shite.
This post was edited on 11/30/24 at 1:03 pm
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Posted on 11/30/24 at 12:23 pm to cfish140
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I rewatched the first one Saturday. I hadn’t seen it in probably 15 years so it was like watching it again for the first time. My god they don’t make them like that anymore. It was way better than I remembered
Kind of funny that he got so much shite for it when it seems like Scott's cinematographer was dead on balls accurate when he said that Scott has become a lazy filmmaker who has developed a run and gun fix it in post mentality that doesn't lend itself to good film making.
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During a recent appearance on the DocFix podcast (via World of Reel), Mathieson — who has worked with Scott as a cinematographer on Gladiator, Hannibal, Kingdom of Heaven, Robin Hood, and the most recent Gladiator II — said that the way Scott makes movies now is “really lazy.”
“It’s really lazy,” Mathieson said. “It’s the CG [computer graphic] elements now of tidying-up, leaving things in shot, cameras in shot, microphones in shot, bits of set hanging down, shadows from booms. And they just said [on Gladiator II], ‘Well, clean it up.’
Mathieson went on to say that Scott’s impatience often results in him trying to “get as much as he can at once,” and that the use of so many cameras at once doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a better product.
“He is quite impatient so he likes to get as much as he can at once,” said Mathieson. “It’s not very good for cinematography…Look at his older films and getting depth into things was very much part of lighting. You can’t do that with a lot of cameras but he just wants to get it all done.
“Having lots of cameras I don’t think has made the films any better…It’s a bit rush, rush, rush. That’s changed in him. But that’s the way he wants to do it and I don’t like it and I don’t think many people do, but people love his films and he’s Ridley Scott and can do what he wants.”
LINK
This post was edited on 11/30/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:04 am to ned nederlander
quote:this is my position. I was really disappointed, but my disappointment was probably me building it up in my own head.
This was a true sequel. Worse than the original in almost every conceivable way, but passably entertaining if you just feel like going to the theater.
Posted on 12/1/24 at 5:04 pm to tigerfoot
While it wasn't the sequel I had hoped, it was still better than 99% of the trash that's made these days. That's not saying much though. The baboons and the sharks were a little bit over the top. I also didn't like how it kind of seemed like it was on a Broadway theater stage sometimes. I don't know how you forget you're the heir to the throne that was kind of stupid, overall I give it a 7 out of 10. Honestly this movie should not have been made into a part two. Especially when the first one was so good. But it gave me something to do
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:14 am to Hayekian serf
Just got out. I agree with all the criticisms, but wife and I still enjoyed it. It's pretty long but I was never bored. It has a lot of fun action scenes.
+1 he's just playing the same character in every movie/show I've seen him in.
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Pedro Pascal must have dirt on every producer in Hollywood
+1 he's just playing the same character in every movie/show I've seen him in.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:35 am to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:03 am to RLDSC FAN
i will watch it eventually. but i dont it expect to compare to the emotion in the first 2 minutes of this
Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:25 am to tigersaint26
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As a popcorn movie that was made to entertain, I think it succeeded
It’s crazy how low the bar is now for movies.
Ridley Scott movies are a mess these days, but some of yall are giving him a pass.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:28 pm to GetCocky11
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It’s crazy how low the bar is now for movies.
is this a new thing? I'm pretty sure some of the movies regarded as the greatest ever have storylines that make zero sense. back in the day people went to the theatre to relax and enjoy a good show. now people try to pick movies apart before the trailer even drops.
i think people in general were happier back in the day and now everyone is hypercritical of everything.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 4:06 pm to Corinthians420
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is this a new thing? I'm pretty sure some of the movies regarded as the greatest ever have storylines that make zero sense. back in the day people went to the theatre to relax and enjoy a good show. now people try to pick movies apart before the trailer even drops.
I mean, we have a pretty good sample here with a 20+ year gap between Gladiator and Gladiator 2. I have to assume Ridley Scott intended to have the same depth and seriousness with Gladiator 2 that he had with Gladiator.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:43 pm to Dr RC
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Of all the things to criticize in this movie, Denzel's accent ain't it. It's not like anyone in the first movie tried to speak w/the correct regional accents anyway.
I have not yet seen the movie so I’m just going by the clips I’ve seen. I don’t need realistic ancient accents. I don’t need the characters speaking Latin. But to hear English spoken in a modern American accent just doesn’t fit with the setting. Yes, I know that my attitude is not logical.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 10:22 am to Hayekian serf
I just watched it last night, and while Gladiator is still my all-time favorite movie, I had some issues with this one.
First off, I agree with most people here—the CGI was awful. The monkeys and sharks felt over-the-top and ridiculous.
But my biggest problem was the story. It felt like they wrote the script and said, “Good enough, let’s wrap it up.” Everything felt rushed—the plot, the pacing, the scenes. This story had the potential to be so much deeper and more developed. Honestly, it could have been an incredible four-season streaming series.
For example, where did the two brothers come from? How did they rise to power? And then the final fight? A five-second battle followed by a quick speech, and suddenly everyone agrees in unison?
It wasn’t terrible, but it wasn’t great either. Just… fine.
First off, I agree with most people here—the CGI was awful. The monkeys and sharks felt over-the-top and ridiculous.
But my biggest problem was the story. It felt like they wrote the script and said, “Good enough, let’s wrap it up.” Everything felt rushed—the plot, the pacing, the scenes. This story had the potential to be so much deeper and more developed. Honestly, it could have been an incredible four-season streaming series.
For example, where did the two brothers come from? How did they rise to power? And then the final fight? A five-second battle followed by a quick speech, and suddenly everyone agrees in unison?
It wasn’t terrible, but it wasn’t great either. Just… fine.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 4:27 pm to Duzz
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I think making Maximum Lucius dad was stupid. It even took away from Maximus. He never acknowledge or wanted to live for his surviving son, instead he constantly lament over his other wife and dead son. Like really?
Isn't it possible Maximus didn't know Lucius was his son? Was it just assumed to be her gay husband's, or even Commodus'?
Posted on 12/8/24 at 1:42 am to tigersaint26
Just finished watching it. While I did honestly enjoy it, there were a lot of negatives for me:
1) Plot line was all the place. Like the reasons for Lucius being mad at Rome/the world didn't seem convincing to me.
2) Random weird looking baboons and sharks/water battles in the Coliseum? What the frick?
3) Denzel was great in it but character seemed so unnecessary
4) The twin emperors were so so so bad. Like the worst acting I've ever seen.
5) Paul Mescal wasn't bad as Lucius, but as the main guy he really wasn't special either
Again, I overall enjoyed it regardless but I completely understand one that hates it. Guess it takes a lot for me to hate a movie.
1) Plot line was all the place. Like the reasons for Lucius being mad at Rome/the world didn't seem convincing to me.
2) Random weird looking baboons and sharks/water battles in the Coliseum? What the frick?
3) Denzel was great in it but character seemed so unnecessary
4) The twin emperors were so so so bad. Like the worst acting I've ever seen.
5) Paul Mescal wasn't bad as Lucius, but as the main guy he really wasn't special either
Again, I overall enjoyed it regardless but I completely understand one that hates it. Guess it takes a lot for me to hate a movie.
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 2:04 am
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:17 am to WestSideTiger
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Denzel
What Morgan Freeman was busy or something?
Posted on 12/8/24 at 10:08 am to A Menace to Sobriety
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2) Random weird looking baboons and sharks/water battles in the Coliseum? What the frick?
Yeah, these were pretty ridiculous. Would the water in the coliseum even have been possible like that? How did they essentially just fill it like a pool? Doesn't make sense for the times.
A guy riding a rhino as well? In no way could someone just control a rhino like that.
Also, how the hell did they even get sharks to Rome anyway?
The feral monkey baboon things were not even realistic.. what was that?
Posted on 12/8/24 at 8:46 pm to southpawcock
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Would the water in the coliseum even have been possible like that? How did they essentially just fill it like a pool? Doesn't make sense for the times.
They actually did flood the colosseum and have naval battles. They could apparently flood and drain it in around a day. They eventually renovated the colosseum and couldn’t flood it any more. .
Posted on 12/8/24 at 8:48 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Ridley Scott confirms that a GLADIATOR 3 will ‘certainly’ happen.
Probably going to be something like this:
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:57 am to tigersaint26
I liked it, but it’s obviously not as great as the first movie. The naval arena battle jumped the shark (pun intended) for me. Still a fun popcorn watch overall.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 5:05 pm to Dixie Normus
Wow...this was bad. I don't what caused Paul Mescal to be cast as the lead. I don't think he brings anything to the table as far as likeability, leadership, or charisma. Pedro Pascal also brought nothing inventive or forceful. The writing seemed rushed and without any resonance. Denzel was even giving Kabuki in his own way. Ridley Scott laid an egg. This just didn't need to be made.
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