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re: Leaving Neverland
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:18 pm to ell_13
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:18 pm to ell_13
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10 Undeniable Facts About the Michael Jackson Sexual-Abuse Allegations
LINK
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1. There is no dispute that, at age 34, Michael Jackson slept more than 30 nights in a row in the same bed with 13-year-old Jordie Chandler at the boy's house with Chandler's mother present. He also slept in the same bed with Jordie Chandler at Chandler's father's house. The parents were divorced.
2. So far, five boys Michael Jackson shared beds with have accused him of abuse: Jordie Chandler, Jason Francia, Gavin Arvizo, Wade Robson, and Jimmy Safechuck. Jackson had the same nickname for Chandler and Arvizo: "Rubba." He called Robson "Little One" and Safechuck "Applehead."
3. Jackson paid $25 million to settle the Chandlers' lawsuit, with $18 million going to Jordie, $2.5 million to each of the parents, and the rest to lawyers. Jackson said he paid that sum to avoid something "long and drawn out." Francia also received $2.4 million from Jackson.
4. Michael Jackson suffered from the skin discoloration disease vitiligo. Jordie Chandler drew a picture of the markings on the underside of Jackson's *****. His drawings were sealed in an envelope. A few months later, investigators photographed Jackson's genitalia. The photographs matched Chandler's drawings.
5. The hallway leading to Jackson's bedroom was a serious security zone covered by video and wired for sound so that the steps of anyone approaching would make ding-dong sounds.
6. Jackson had an extensive collection of adult erotic material he kept in a suitcase next to his bed, including S&M bondage photos and a study of naked boys. Forensic experts with experience in the Secret Service found the fingerprints of boys alongside Jackson's on the same pages. Jackson also had bondage sculptures of women with ball gags in their mouths on his desk, in full view of the boys who slept there.
7. According to the Neverland staff interviewed by the Santa Barbara authorities, no one ever saw or knew of a woman spending the night with Michael Jackson, including his two spouses, Debbie Rowe or Lisa Marie Presley. Rowe, the mother of two of Jackson's children, made it clear to the Santa Barbara authorities that she never had sex with Jackson.
8. The parents of boys Jackson shared beds with were courted assiduously and given myriad expensive gifts. Wade Robson's mother testified in the 2005 trial that she funneled wages through Jackson's company and was given a permanent resident visa. Jimmy Safechuck's parents got a house. Jordie Chandler's mother got a diamond bracelet.
9. Two of the fathers of those who have accused Jackson, Jordie Chandler and Wade Robson, committed suicide. Both were estranged from their sons at the time.
10. In a 2002 documentary, Living with Michael Jackson, Jackson told Martin Bashir there was nothing wrong with sharing his bed with boys.
But yeah. MJ was just simply strange. He wasn't messing around with kids.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 2:19 pm
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Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:26 pm to MidnightVibe
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And why hasn't Robson been charged with perjury?
five year statute of limitations
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:29 pm to MidnightVibe
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Till they are 31 and their abuser has been dead for years? And they finally remember when they are 32
Neither man claimed that this was some sort of repressed memory event. Both stated their reasons for lying or hiding information.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:33 pm to tylercsbn9
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4. Michael Jackson suffered from the skin discoloration disease vitiligo. Jordie Chandler drew a picture of the markings on the underside of Jackson's *****. His drawings were sealed in an envelope. A few months later, investigators photographed Jackson's genitalia. The photographs matched Chandler's drawings.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 2:46 pm to tylercsbn9
yeah okay. That's pretty damning.
Appreciate the link.
Appreciate the link.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 4:21 pm to MidnightVibe
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And why hasn't Robson been charged with perjury?
He waited for the 7 year statue of limitations to expire before filing his lawsuit
Posted on 3/6/19 at 4:26 pm to Mystery
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4. Michael Jackson suffered from the skin discoloration disease vitiligo. Jordie Chandler drew a picture of the markings on the underside of Jackson's *****. His drawings were sealed in an envelope. A few months later, investigators photographed Jackson's genitalia. The photographs matched Chandler's drawings.
Google: jordy chandler Michael Jackson penis drawing
And you will see this fact was wrong.
Fact is had it matched MJ would have been arrested and he was never charged in the Chandler case.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 4:43 pm to Rou Leed
How do sex crime cases go when your victim won’t testify?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 6:24 pm to tylercsbn9
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But yeah. MJ was just simply strange. He wasn't messing around with kids.
Most of those facts are fiction. It’s amazing how gullible people are. FYI Michael Jackson’s autopsy is public, the penis drawing did not match what was on the autopsy at all.
If you care to brush up on the other side for the sake of being objective you can start here: LINK
Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:29 pm to JodyPlauche
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Google: jordy chandler Michael Jackson penis drawing
I did and I found articles saying it didn’t match and articles that said it did. Then I found a YouTube video where one of the detectives in the case said that the kid accurately described the discoloration on the underside of MJs pedo penis.
MJ was a friggin pedo...period.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:30 pm to 13SaintTiger
Again, bottom line is he cant dispute timelines and copious amounts of time in bed with kids. He can try to discredit victims and getting them on record saying nothing happened was a super evil smart plan. But he still cant disprove the charges. I hope these kids get all of Titos money.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:34 pm to Rou Leed
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Again, bottom line is he cant dispute timelines and copious amounts of time in bed with kids. He can try to discredit victims and getting them on record saying nothing happened was a super evil smart plan. But he still cant disprove the charges. I hope these kids get all of Titos money.
#1 he’s dead. #2 these aren’t kids
Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:37 pm to 13SaintTiger
His estate is alive and i hope the victims get paid. They were sexually abused and then manipulated into giving false testimony.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:38 pm to 13SaintTiger
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. #2 these aren’t kids
Well yeah.
He’s been dead long enough that the kids he likes would have aged out. Todays 7 to 10 year olds he enjoyed were born after he died.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:43 pm to tylercsbn9
I think the real story is he thought after he got these 2 victims on record saying nothing happened he could stop paying them hush money and the threat was neutralized. Probably should have kept paying these people for their silence.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 7:52 pm to Rou Leed
Once you start giving people money to be quiet, they will always come back asking for more and eventually rat you out when the money dries up.
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:37 pm to Rou Leed
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i hope the victims get paid. They were sexually abused and then manipulated into giving false testimony.
None of this is true
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:40 pm to 13SaintTiger
Well why did he shower these people with gifts and money and pay off a mortgage in exchange for testimony?
Posted on 3/6/19 at 8:45 pm to Rou Leed
Why do you care about who gets MJs money? The family doesnt really deserve it. They couldnt keep him out of little boys beds. I mean are those three kids really his? The mom said they werent conceived naturally. His family are the people that enabled this whole problem and made him such a freak. Why should I sympathize with them?
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 3/6/19 at 9:01 pm to Rou Leed
This is the last thing I'm posting on this. Why couldnt anyone get him to stop sleeping with kids even after he paid someone 22 million and went to trial for charges of sexual abuse? There is only one logical explanation. He couldnt stop himself from risking his entire life and estate by sleeping with kids. Pedophile.
This post was edited on 3/6/19 at 9:07 pm
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