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Magnolia is a beautiful film
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 2/6/20 at 1:26 pm
Caught it on Netflix today, missed it back in 1999.
Seems pretty comparable to American Beauty which won the Oscar that year with the self-reflection and disparate narratives weaving together, but Alan Ball injected too much cynicism, too much nihilism into the writing. The movie aged like milk even before Spacey's baggage came out.
Contrast that with PTA daring you to find optimism and compassion in a melodrama. David Foster Wallace began to reject post-modernism and its 40 year reign over the arts in the 90s, calling for a movement of New Sincerity, and this film is the purest example of that I can find.
Has to be the most overlooked performance of Philip Seymour Hoffman's career, certainly among his supporting roles. He was incredible.
Seems pretty comparable to American Beauty which won the Oscar that year with the self-reflection and disparate narratives weaving together, but Alan Ball injected too much cynicism, too much nihilism into the writing. The movie aged like milk even before Spacey's baggage came out.
Contrast that with PTA daring you to find optimism and compassion in a melodrama. David Foster Wallace began to reject post-modernism and its 40 year reign over the arts in the 90s, calling for a movement of New Sincerity, and this film is the purest example of that I can find.
Has to be the most overlooked performance of Philip Seymour Hoffman's career, certainly among his supporting roles. He was incredible.
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Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:02 pm to Muthsera
quote:It's terrible. PTA is horribly overrated. His wife is markedly more talented.
Magnolia is a beautiful film
quote:Also terrible. Hard to believe it's the same person who helmed 1917.
Seems pretty comparable to American Beauty
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:08 pm to Muthsera
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This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:20 pm to sacrathetic
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must have fallen on deaf ears because the last 20 years of all of pop-culture have been nothing but post-modern garbage for the most part.
It absolutely fell on deaf ears.
It's not an exaggeration to say that postmodern criticism taking over academia, art, and eventually media was a cultural death-knell from which we have yet to recover.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:23 pm to Big Scrub TX
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It's terrible. PTA is horribly overrated. His wife is markedly more talented.
His wife is stupid talented.
I really enjoyed Magnolia and There Will Be Blood.
The Master was mediocre at best - really only worked as a method acting workshop for PSH and Phoenix.
Boogie Nights is the most overrated film of the 90s.
Haven't watched any of his other flicks.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:23 pm to Muthsera
It one of those movies like just about all of PTA movies. Watch it once. Enjoy it a lot but never care to watch again. Except Boogie Nights. I can watch that any day of the week. You are right PSH was great. If you are a fan of his have you ever seen Before the Devil Knows Your Dead?
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:29 pm to ThuperThumpin
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PSH was great. If you are a fan of his have you ever seen Before the Devil Knows Your Dead?
that opening scene is
then 
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:35 pm to Muthsera
I love it. Top 5 of all time for me.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:48 pm to Muthsera
quote:TWWB was passable but incredibly overrated.
I really enjoyed Magnolia and There Will Be Blood.
The Master was mediocre at best - really only worked as a method acting workshop for PSH and Phoenix.
Boogie Nights is the most overrated film of the 90s.
Haven't watched any of his other flicks.
The only one I really like is Punch Drunk Love. What a spectactularly eccentric movie - that still managed to maintain some coherence.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 2:50 pm to Muthsera
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His wife is stupid talented. I really enjoyed Magnolia and There Will Be Blood. The Master was mediocre at best - really only worked as a method acting workshop for PSH and Phoenix. Boogie Nights is the most overrated film of the 90s. Haven't watched any of his other flicks.
Magnolia- good movie, too long. TWBB- long, boring, overacted. Boogie Nights- not bad, but overrated. PTA's best movie is Inherent Vice. Mostly because it's a great novel and Joaquin is a great actor.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 3:28 pm to Big Scrub TX
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It's terrible. PTA is horribly overrated.
GTFO you pig frick
Posted on 2/6/20 at 3:38 pm to Muthsera
The last scene with cruise and his father is one of the best movie scenes of all time
Posted on 2/6/20 at 4:01 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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TWBB- long, boring, overacted.
yeah, no.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 4:07 pm to Funky Tide 8
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yeah, no.
To each their own. IMO, that movie sucked balls.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 5:36 pm to Muthsera
i loved Magnolia. not sure if it would have the same impact if i saw it now as opposed to when i was a teenager, but its still a special movie.
i really like how PTA has matured over his career, even if i didnt like the Master at all and think Inherent Vice is a huge waste of time.
i really like how PTA has matured over his career, even if i didnt like the Master at all and think Inherent Vice is a huge waste of time.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 6:56 pm to cigsmcgee
Magnolia and The Master are 2 of PTAs movies that’s I liked but don’t really wanna watch again
There Will Be Blood and Boogie Nights I have seen multiple times
There Will Be Blood and Boogie Nights I have seen multiple times
Posted on 2/6/20 at 8:08 pm to Muthsera
Boogie nights is amazing, easily in my all time top 10.
I wanted to love magnolia, but just couldn’t get into it, despite the fact that I live 2 blocks from the eponymous magnolia Blvd.
I wanted to love magnolia, but just couldn’t get into it, despite the fact that I live 2 blocks from the eponymous magnolia Blvd.
Posted on 2/6/20 at 8:17 pm to 632627
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despite the fact that I live 2 blocks from the eponymous magnolia Blvd.
I mean that would be a weird reason to like the movie so I don’t see the correlation
Posted on 2/6/20 at 8:45 pm to Muthsera
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Alan Ball injected too much cynicism, too much nihilism into the writing
Yeah, there was a lot to like about this movie, but ultimately it fell flat and I really disliked it in the end; both times that I gave it a serious watch. It just seemed horribly pretentious for the last hour or so.
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David Foster Wallace began to reject post-modernism and its 40 year reign over the arts in the 90s
Wow, I'm a huge fan of DFW, so fun to see a reference here on the movie board. Some of his synopses of post-modern films done by the father in Infinite Jest were funny as hell. Incredibly smart guy and a terrible loss.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 12:26 am to Tigris
Inherent Vice is PT’s best ??? That’s rich
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