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re: Marvel’s MCU Rigidity Is Letting DC’s Diverse Universe Have The Upper Hand
Posted on 1/29/20 at 11:58 am to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 1/29/20 at 11:58 am to RLDSC FAN
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Serious question for some of you, what makes movies like Shazam hot garbage?
You should take people saying this as seriously as the article you posted.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 12:00 pm
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:04 pm to stateofplay
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Birds of Prey trailer makes Black Widow look like The DARK KNIGHT.
Talk about your apples and oranges.
Black Widow and Wonder Woman 84 would be a more fair comparison.
Ragnorak is the closest in over the top humor and camp that compares to Birds of Prey. And even Ragnorak is a completely different mindset and tone. You're talking about a movie with a CGI Hyena doing comedic doubletakes.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:42 pm to RLDSC FAN
Shazam was fun, so was Aquaman, they were good comic book movies.
But Man of Steel was humorless and pulling tones from all over without ever understanding how to fit it together. Henry Cavill was a good Superman but Snyder butchered it and then doubled down in BvsS and Justice League.
But Man of Steel was humorless and pulling tones from all over without ever understanding how to fit it together. Henry Cavill was a good Superman but Snyder butchered it and then doubled down in BvsS and Justice League.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 12:48 pm to RLDSC FAN
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with Infinity War ending the “main” MCU saga
Aaaaaaand cut
Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:06 pm to BlackAdam
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I don't think you understand Black Adam at all. He is a complex character with a strong sense of justice. He is rarely a true villain.
Ehh... that's the case now. Not so much from his creation in the 40's through most of the 90s.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:33 pm to RLDSC FAN
Joker is a game changer for DC. And I’m hearing The Batman is very dark too. What DC is doing now is making dark movies that are SUPPOSED to be dark. And light ones that are supposed to be light. They’re also hiring the right people to make them.
I really don’t know what to expect from Marvel tbh. RDJ and Chris Evans were the best part of the series. The Thor movies have promise, but without those two, it will feel much different.
But I will never understand why people think you need to like one or the other. It’s fricking childish and stupid.
I really don’t know what to expect from Marvel tbh. RDJ and Chris Evans were the best part of the series. The Thor movies have promise, but without those two, it will feel much different.
But I will never understand why people think you need to like one or the other. It’s fricking childish and stupid.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:38 pm to abellsujr
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I really don’t know what to expect from Marvel tbh. RDJ and Chris Evans were the best part of the series. The Thor movies have promise, but without those two, it will feel much different.
I do think the MCU is a wildcard right now. I don't think the light will fade much, but I do think they shift their focus. There's a chance they leave comic book nostalghia folks behind a bit with the new story. And I can see a big shakeup in F4 in how they portray it.
I also believe they will still have movies that have a definite north star, but can stand on their own ie, Dr. Strange 2 vs. Shang Chi vs. The Eternals. There's a lot of promise in that kind of line up for them to expand the differentiation a bit.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:43 pm to Freauxzen
I wonder how they'll do if Feige jumps ship to Star Wars.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:50 pm to Dr RC
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Ehh... that's the case now. Not so much from his creation in the 40's through most of the 90s.
Well he has exactly one golden age comic appearance, and only a handful between the 70s and early 2000s.
About 90% of his total appearances are of the anti-hero Black Adam from the last 18 to 20 years.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 2:15 pm to Freauxzen
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I do think the MCU is a wildcard right now. I don't think the light will fade much, but I do think they shift their focus. There's a chance they leave comic book nostalghia folks behind a bit with the new story. And I can see a big shakeup in F4 in how they portray it.
I'm skeptical of the MCU moving forward for a number of reasons, but at the same time they've proven they possess the ability to deliver quality content that fits in with their vision for the next phase.
I'm certainly not as excited for the next phase as I've been in the past. Still, if someone told me a few years ago that I was going to enjoy GOTG and the last Thor movie I'd think they were crazy. But here I am looking forward to a team up movie with them.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 2:16 pm to RLDSC FAN
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I wonder how they'll do if Feige jumps ship to Star Wars.
Be pumped for Star Wars.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 2:24 pm to abellsujr
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They’re also hiring the right people to make them.
This is the kind of thing I was hoping that article would cover. DC has a strategy built upon competent talent with a proven understanding of the genre they're producing.
Instead, OP gave us an article that wouldn't have been any less incoherent had the author swapped out DC for the new Transformers reboot.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 2:29 pm to RLDSC FAN
Dc has better shows now,.but netflix.mcu was better yeah
Posted on 1/29/20 at 2:35 pm to southdowns84
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Instead, OP gave us an article that wouldn't have been any less incoherent had the author swapped out DC for the new Transformers reboot.
The author is the videogame reviewer for Forbes. This is his only film related article.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 2:44 pm to RLDSC FAN
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I wonder how they'll do if Feige jumps ship to Star Wars.
Depends on who they get to replace him, but if Feige exits the MCU, I really don't think it lasts long after that. No one has ever done what he did and I don't think anyone could replicate anything close to it.
The MCU would suffer tremendously.
That is one benefit to the DCEU model...it does not rely so much on a singular voice guiding everything. The MCU absolutely does at this point. Especially with out there choices like Shang Chi or Eternals. As much as they can add some much needed breadth to the world, they can also spectacularly fail to add anything fail and not be interesting in the least bit. Feige was masterful in bringing GotG and Dr. Strange into the fold.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 2:55 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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The author is the videogame reviewer for Forbes. This is his only film related article.
I'll be honest. I had no idea Forbes had as broad of a focus on entertainment as they seem to have.
I've always known they tracked box office numbers and covered cinema, but I didn't realize the extent of their entertainment coverage until this post lead me to that section of their website.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 3:06 pm to RLDSC FAN
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For years now, there has been a narrative that Marvel has been dominating DC in terms of producing consistent, quality content with its grand, over-arching Marvel Cinematic Universe which spans both movies and TV. DC, meanwhile, has been struggling with disjointed stories and a sub-par attempt at the same thing with the DCEU
The author is making a mistake by inferring that Marvel's story-telling is dependent on the one-universe model in which they write. I disagree. The one-universe aspect is the setting in which they write and it's incorporated into their content, but it is not the totality of their content. They could just as easily have written their movies and shows having no interconnectivity whatsoever and they still would have succeeded over the DC movies because they do the better job of storytelling through writing (basics of the storytelling) and the directing (the advanced storytelling).
This difference is so great it pushed DC to try to adopt a one-universe scenario for at least their movies, but ultimately it proved too difficult for them (while Marvel makes it look easy).
Marvel's lack of an Infinity War level of over-arching theme at the moment does not mean their storytelling will suffer just as it doesn't mean it will somehow magically make DC's better.
This post was edited on 1/31/20 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 1/29/20 at 3:11 pm to southdowns84
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I'll be honest. I had no idea Forbes had as broad of a focus on entertainment as they seem to have.
I follow their movie guy, Scott Mendelson, because he has interesting takes on the box office mixed with his own short reviews. But he stokes the clickbait fires as well, so I don't usually share his articles.
He comes up with some unique records to break when films are killing it at the box office.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 3:17 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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I follow their movie guy, Scott Mendelson, because he has interesting takes on the box office mixed with his own short reviews. But he stokes the clickbait fires as well, so I don't usually share his articles.
He comes up with some unique records to break when films are killing it at the box office.
Yeah, I'm a numbers guy so I'm naturally drawn to his articles.
Posted on 1/29/20 at 3:41 pm to jlovel7
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I've rewatched each of the MCU movies at least 5 times for even the worst ones such as Thor 2 or Iron Man 3 and the rest probably a dozen or so times or more depending on how long they've been out.
Jesus Christ, get a life man
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