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Posted on 7/14/25 at 1:05 pm to BOSCEAUX
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Without spoilers do the books basically follow new adventures of Murderbot or is his original crew still involved?
I've only read the first two (and currently reading the third), but it's basically the new adventures of Murderbot in the stuff I've read.
ETA:
So after reading novelettes 3 and 4 and starting 5, books 2 and 3 are basically new adventures of Murderbot, and books 4 and 5 deal with the original crew again. So I guess it's a mixture of both.
Hopefully they combine books 2 and 3 like the show runner has said he was considering in order to make longer episodes.
This post was edited on 7/15/25 at 10:37 am
Posted on 7/14/25 at 2:13 pm to Pandy Fackler
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I've never read the books. The show is really good though.
Same! Happy to hear they are getting renewed for a 2nd season.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:07 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Now I’m not sure why, other than to show case Skarsgård, the Corporation would make a *full human face featured android, but then cover it up with a helmet… do they all look like him by model, individuals, or is each one unique?
Next ep explains it, though the reason is kinda weak. Guess to avoid an “iRobot“ scenario.
Posted on 7/15/25 at 4:10 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
I can’t listen to the ensign from “Sanctuary Moon“ and not hear Fix it Felix. 
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:57 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Sanctuary Moon
I like the show but I could do with less of Sanctuary Moon.
Posted on 7/15/25 at 6:03 pm to gizmothepug
At the rate they’re killing off sanctuary moon characters, that shouldn’t be a problem
* Finished S1. Good way to end it.
Will circle back to the space hippies? Or move on to a whole new chapter?
* Finished S1. Good way to end it.
Will circle back to the space hippies? Or move on to a whole new chapter?
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 7/18/25 at 11:01 am to Esquire
Listened to All Systems Red audible before I started the show. Pretty book accurate so far through 5 episodes (which is maybe an 45 minutes run time of show).
Actually like show Murderbot better than book version. Not so much with the crew. Not sure why they are making the crew out to be such buffoons when the reason Murderbot liked this crew in particular was because they weren't buffoons like the rest of humans.
But a very fun show. Really enjoying it.
Actually like show Murderbot better than book version. Not so much with the crew. Not sure why they are making the crew out to be such buffoons when the reason Murderbot liked this crew in particular was because they weren't buffoons like the rest of humans.
But a very fun show. Really enjoying it.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 11:08 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Started watching and it’s got a pretty good cast. Despite the over the top diversity hippie science group, where “almost“ every damn box is checked,
Came into this thread knowing you were going to be complaining about this. Blame the book, not the show. It was a very diverse crew. Unlike Foundation, that changed for the sake of being diverse. But as long as you haven't read the source it doesn't bother you.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 11:24 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Not sure why they are making the crew out to be such buffoons when the reason Murderbot liked this crew in particular was because they weren't buffoons like
I think part of it is due to the condensing of characters and combining a couple characters personalities into 1 (which makes sense). They combined Pin and Arada's wife into one character, and kinda spread Volescu out between Arada, Ratthi, and Bharadwaj.
Overall I think they nailed Mensah and Gurathin, and did a pretty good job with Ratthi, (though they obviously ramped up his goofiness a bit for comedic effect, I think they got the essence of the character pretty well).
After reading farther in the series, I really hope we get a third and fourth season. Books 2 and 3 are solid like book 1, but books 4 and 5 are excellent and I'd love to see them filmed.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 11:30 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Blame the book, not the show. It was a very diverse crew
Yeah, if anything they scaled back that aspect in the show, leaving out a character that was part of a 4 person marriage with a bunch of kids.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 11:48 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Came into this thread knowing you were going to be complaining about this
You know me. You really know me!
At least I’m consistent. But my biggest issue is most of that group so often acted like idiots. I hated how the throuple acted, especially the guy who was such a complete Beta. The Asian chick actually was the coolest one of them all. So I guess I didn’t hate all of them. The two older ladies, the leader, and the one who got chomped on by the giant centipede, weren’t too bad. I really liked how they brought David Dastmalchian’s character around, dude to so damn versatile.
This post was edited on 7/19/25 at 4:15 am
Posted on 7/18/25 at 11:53 am to auyushu
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Yeah, if anything they scaled back that aspect in the show, leaving out a character that was part of a 4 person marriage with a bunch of kids.
Then explain how it worked so well in The Expanse? Jim Holden had two mothers, maybe three and probably four dads. That wasn’t a problem.
The characters were better developed & also better written.
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 11:55 am
Posted on 7/18/25 at 1:08 pm to auyushu
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I think part of it is due to the condensing of characters and combining a couple characters personalities into 1 (which makes sense).
Yea there isn't enough time in these episodes to get to know any more characters. Even in the book you don't really get to know any characters outside of SecU well. I'm sure it'll get better as the books go along.
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Overall I think they nailed Mensah and Gurathin, and did a pretty good job with Ratthi, (though they obviously ramped up his goofiness a bit for comedic effect, I think they got the essence of the character pretty well).
I was going to say I thought Ratthi's is too goofy, and I do still think that, but when he shot the gun and it kicked back and hit him in the head I LOL'd big time. Me and the Mrs. cracked up at that. It's goofy, but pretty well done.
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After reading farther in the series, I really hope we get a third and fourth season. Books 2 and 3 are solid like book 1, but books 4 and 5 are excellent and I'd love to see them filmed.
I personally like the 15-20 minute episodes. I think most complaining about the length of the episodes don't realize how short the books are. If they were longer they'd have to be adding filler/no telling what that would be different from the book.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 2:08 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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At least I’m consistent.
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little
statesmen and philosophers and divines.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 2:25 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Then explain how it worked so well in The Expanse? Jim Holden had two mothers, maybe three and probably four dads. That wasn’t a problem.
The characters were better developed & also better written.
It's not a problem in Murderbot either, it's barely mentioned other than factually and having the characters interact. Mensah is part of polyamory relationship and it's barely mentioned outside of her talking about them with MB here or there.
And no shite characters will be better developed in a 600 page book versus a novella. The first 4 Murderbot novellas combined are barely more pages that the first expanse novel. They aren't remotely similar types of stories. The Expanse novels are about multiple characters, it's not just the Holden show. Whereas the Murderbot stories are primarily just about him (though the side characters get much better development in books 4 and 5).
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 7/18/25 at 2:30 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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they were longer they'd have to be adding filler/no telling what that would be different from the book.
The show runner was talking about doing multiple books for next season, which I think would be a good call, at least for 2 and 3.
If you are binge watching the entire show at once the short episodes wouldn't be a big deal, but when you are watching weekly the short runtime is a hindrance.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 2:42 pm to auyushu
quote:this completely. Especially when most of the episodes ended with a cliffhanger. After the first a few episodes I stopped watching and waited till the series was complete. Unless they adopt the Netflix model of dropping all the episodes at one time, they've got to make them longer
If you are binge watching the entire show at once the short episodes wouldn't be a big deal, but when you are watching weekly the short runtime is a hindrance.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 2:58 pm to wesfau
You’re just mad you’ve got nothing of substance to criticize me for and this is a prime example.
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 7/19/25 at 4:12 am to auyushu
Key difference is that the committed versions were more earnest & not just trying it out for funzies , married vs not just some fling. 
And with 7 seasons of the Expanse, I’d bet as a % of the story, we saw more throuple stuff in Murderbot’s 1 season
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And with 7 seasons of the Expanse, I’d bet as a % of the story, we saw more throuple stuff in Murderbot’s 1 season
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This post was edited on 7/19/25 at 4:21 am
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