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re: Quiet On Set: Nickelodeon Documentary
Posted on 3/24/24 at 8:10 am to Twenty 49
Posted on 3/24/24 at 8:10 am to Twenty 49
The thing that sucks about the Cosby stuff is he was 100% right with the points he was making at the time about black people and carrying themselves and all that. And it would definitely have helped out his race if they had listened to him.
But I guess when your past includes rape….lots and lots of rape…and that comes to light, the message sort of gets lost in the shuffle.
But I guess when your past includes rape….lots and lots of rape…and that comes to light, the message sort of gets lost in the shuffle.
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:10 am to dawgfan24348
I finished this over the weekend.
Gotta say, I’ve always assumed Dan Schneider was a child molester. It didn’t do anything to sway me that he is. I do think he’s a douche. He comes off as the stereotypical power-mad Hollywood producer. Not at all saying he’s a good guy. But not one of the kids had anything to say about him touching them. Drake Bell said Dan was the only person there for him.
I’d bet he has a personality similar to Corey Feldman or Michael Jackson (probably not a good example). But what I mean is a stunted maturity that keeps him still in the child world to a degree. That’s likely what made him so successful as a kid’s show creator. Combine that with a corporation that only cares about money and parents that are getting rich off their children and you get Arianna Grande jerking off a potato.
I don’t know. All the signs are there that he’s a monster. It’s weird that there are no allegations.
Gotta say, I’ve always assumed Dan Schneider was a child molester. It didn’t do anything to sway me that he is. I do think he’s a douche. He comes off as the stereotypical power-mad Hollywood producer. Not at all saying he’s a good guy. But not one of the kids had anything to say about him touching them. Drake Bell said Dan was the only person there for him.
I’d bet he has a personality similar to Corey Feldman or Michael Jackson (probably not a good example). But what I mean is a stunted maturity that keeps him still in the child world to a degree. That’s likely what made him so successful as a kid’s show creator. Combine that with a corporation that only cares about money and parents that are getting rich off their children and you get Arianna Grande jerking off a potato.
I don’t know. All the signs are there that he’s a monster. It’s weird that there are no allegations.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 9:46 am to thenza
I went down a rabbit hole last night on a few Nick shows. After watching this video, how was Victorious labeled a kids show with more than a few mature innuendos? Did your kids watch this show?
Victorious
Victorious
Posted on 3/24/24 at 12:41 pm to VoxDawg
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Sounds like a you problem, my man.
His mom was always complaining and they got rid of him. Funny how that works
Posted on 3/24/24 at 4:16 pm to dawgfan24348
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Dan Schneider
He is a disgusting fat slob.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 8:21 pm to Sauce Castieaux
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For what its worth...Amanda posted under a name "Ashley Banks" on twitter i think. She directly said Dan was the guy who impregnated her at 13 and forced her to get an abortion
Link to story w/ video
This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:21 pm to VoxDawg
I felt bad for Drake Bell's dad. He seemed like he was doing all the right things when it came to his son, but when he voiced his concerns about Peck, they made it seem like his problem had do with Peck being gay
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:57 pm to dawgfan24348
Damn, this show actually made me support Dan Schneider. I hated him, and now I'm kind of on his side.
That's fricked up.
That's fricked up.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 6:12 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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Damn, this show actually made me support Dan Schneider. I hated him, and now I'm kind of on his side.
And with that sentiment, they've accomplished their mission with the project.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:32 am to VoxDawg
I watched all of this last night, and was confused when I finished because apparently the ID on demand had the episodes out of order. So I watched 1,2 4, then 3.
But I agree with most here that although nothing in the doc makes me think Schneider actually molested anybody, I sort of suspect that he must have had to at some point.
I will say that taking random scenes from the thousands of scenes across numerous shows he's done and alluding to sex stuff was not the best tactic. Of course some of those are filled with innuendo, that's relatively common. But some of the scenes are a bit over the edge. Like the one with the doctor inspecting the feet, or the Peck scene with the pickle through what looks like a gloryhole, or the Ariana Grande pouring water al over herself one (that may be the most WTF of them all having never seen the full scene in context).
Is Dan Schneider an a-hole? No doubt. But that is expected with someone who has that much power at a network I guess. And his bullshite seemed to be geared more toward an HR issue with sexual harassment type stuff rather than actual illegal/jail time type stuff. Was he a pedo? Maybe, but very little in this doc made me believe that. But if it came out tomorrow that he was I'm not sure there would be anybody who would be surprised by that.
The worst parts of the doc for me were the letters of support for Peck with the Drake Bell lawsuit...that was eye-opening. And then also Drake's dad. I couldn't help but feel for that dude. He saw that shite coming a mile away and still ended up being blindsided by it. When they asked him how he felt when he first found out that it was Drake, he burst into tears and was like "It changed my life and changed who I am as a person and I'll never be the same again" that shite broke my heart. I can't imagine that feeling of helplessness for my kid.
But I agree with most here that although nothing in the doc makes me think Schneider actually molested anybody, I sort of suspect that he must have had to at some point.
I will say that taking random scenes from the thousands of scenes across numerous shows he's done and alluding to sex stuff was not the best tactic. Of course some of those are filled with innuendo, that's relatively common. But some of the scenes are a bit over the edge. Like the one with the doctor inspecting the feet, or the Peck scene with the pickle through what looks like a gloryhole, or the Ariana Grande pouring water al over herself one (that may be the most WTF of them all having never seen the full scene in context).
Is Dan Schneider an a-hole? No doubt. But that is expected with someone who has that much power at a network I guess. And his bullshite seemed to be geared more toward an HR issue with sexual harassment type stuff rather than actual illegal/jail time type stuff. Was he a pedo? Maybe, but very little in this doc made me believe that. But if it came out tomorrow that he was I'm not sure there would be anybody who would be surprised by that.
The worst parts of the doc for me were the letters of support for Peck with the Drake Bell lawsuit...that was eye-opening. And then also Drake's dad. I couldn't help but feel for that dude. He saw that shite coming a mile away and still ended up being blindsided by it. When they asked him how he felt when he first found out that it was Drake, he burst into tears and was like "It changed my life and changed who I am as a person and I'll never be the same again" that shite broke my heart. I can't imagine that feeling of helplessness for my kid.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 9:50 am
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:02 am to CocomoLSU
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Drake's dad. I couldn't help but feel for that dude.
In a town where parents are quick to throw their kids onto altar of fame, he was doing it right and still got burned for it because his ex wife couldn't be bothered to hold up her end of the bargain.
Of course Peck is responsible for the actual crimes committed against Drake (and possibly countless other kids - he simply got caught this time), but the mom is villain #2 in this chapter.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:13 am to VoxDawg
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And with that sentiment, they've accomplished their mission with the project.
I'm not taking the side of Dan Schneider here.
I'm just trying to clarify your statement.
You believe this documentary was produced to benefit Dan Schneider? Like as a clever cover for his actions?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:30 am to thenza
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You believe this documentary was produced to benefit Dan Schneider? Like as a clever cover for his actions?
I believe the editorial decision was made to paint Schneider in an unflattering light, but stopped short of the child molester line. The recent decision of Drake Bell to come forward as Brian Peck's victim provided a stark enough contrast to all of Schneider's misdeeds to lead otherwise sensible adults who should be able to piece together the pattern of predatory behavior on Schneider's end to believe he's the lesser of the evils featured.
It's known as a False Dilemma fallacy, and in the case of this documentary, it goes like this:
-Quiet on Set reveals a lot about the seedy underbelly of the Nickelodeon teen sitcom production environment of the 90s and 2000s.
-Multiple Nick employees were arrested and charged with sex crimes against kids, some even convicted, like Brian Peck, who served time for sexually abusing Drake Bell
-While Executive Producer Dan Schneider has an established reputation for misogyny, fostering a hostile work environment, taking questionable photos and videos with teen & preteen starlets, was known for spending extensive private time with Amanda Bynes, Jeanette McCurdy, Victoria Justice, Ariana Grande and Jamie Lynn Spears and others, no one has come forward with allegations of abuse or impropriety in this documentary.
-Because minor players at Nick have gotten caught, were exposed as predators/groomers/child sexual abusers and were named in this production, Dan Schneider was not explicitly accused of similar sexual abuse in this documentary.
-If Schneider is not named/accused in a documentary where others are named/exposed, while his behavior checks every inappropriate box possible in this situation, he cannot be a sexual predator.
-If Schneider were a predator, he would've been named/accused because others were.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 10:32 am to thenza
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I’d bet he has a personality similar to Corey Feldman or Michael Jackson (probably not a good example). But what I mean is a stunted maturity that keeps him still in the child world to a degree.
That exact thought popped into my head while reading about this and watching some clips that were supposed to be damning or something.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 12:40 pm to drizztiger
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ETA: There's another one. I'll look it up. Bu
Someone probably mentioned it already in this 6 page thread, but Seth MacFarlane also called out Kevin Spacey before all that was "public."
Youtube Family Guy
Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:18 pm to VoxDawg
So because he wasn’t as bad as say Peck the documentary benefited him? That’s a pretty wild take. The point of Dan being in it was that he was the main person behind everything and while there’s no outright evidence pointing him to be a pedophile or rapist, there’s enough crumbs of creepy arse shite that Dan oversaw and approved for the average person to come to the conclusion ok yeah this dude is a predator too. I mean the videos of Ariana Grande with the water bottle and potato should be enough red flags alone.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:25 pm to CocomoLSU
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The thing that sucks about the Cosby stuff is he was 100% right with the points he was making at the time about black people
If you want there's a rabbit hole you can go down with Joe Rogan that Cosby is mostly innocent, it was a frame up because the establishment didn't like what he was saying about the black community (negative press) and promoting independence from the government.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 6:12 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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If you want there's a rabbit hole you can go down with Joe Rogan that Cosby is mostly innocent, it was a frame up because the establishment didn't like what he was saying about the black community (negative press) and promoting independence from the government.
100%. Everything like what Harvey Weinstein did is long known in Hollywood circles. If Cosby is guilty then it would be the same for him, yet they only have an issue when he crossed the left.
So how did Harvey Weinstein cross the left? Why did they bring him down?
Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:12 pm to dawgfan24348
watching this now....wow.
Posted on 3/25/24 at 9:49 pm to dawgfan24348
Just finished the show and it turns out the real villian of the documentary is drake bells MOM.
WOWWWW what a piece of shite. Helped convince her son to move out of his fathers house to get closer to a pedophile. Father shares his suspicions and doesn't fight his son moving out but says not to let him stay with pedo with no supervision and then shes too fricking lazy to take him to gigs so she throws him to the fricking wolves.
Also, if all I did was read social media I'd think Dan Schneider was the pedophile in this show. Turns out he's just a super talented a-hole boss who gets fame and gets power hungry (never heard this one before).
The whole show is to lead you into thinking he's the pedo but the worst thing they throw at him is saying he made women massage him on set (power move and shitty obviously).
Did he add some sexual innuendos into the show? Very possible. The Ariana GRande thing was the worst but it also seems that wasn't apart of the show. It was a weird "extras" version on youtube??
Also these "journalist" try and point to every instance of him using any type of long cyclinder food is a dick joke. They talk about pickles? Sausages? Big noses? Obvious dick joke?? lol
Also the massive running joke of Nickelodean was always about getting "slimed" and getting weird goo on your face. But if he does it he's saying you're getting jizz on your face?
Dude was an arse hole but alot of stretches were made during this show to try and make you perceive something without any real evidence. Very possible he is a predator and proof will come out but this show didn't produce anything to show he was a pedophile from what I could tell.
WOWWWW what a piece of shite. Helped convince her son to move out of his fathers house to get closer to a pedophile. Father shares his suspicions and doesn't fight his son moving out but says not to let him stay with pedo with no supervision and then shes too fricking lazy to take him to gigs so she throws him to the fricking wolves.
Also, if all I did was read social media I'd think Dan Schneider was the pedophile in this show. Turns out he's just a super talented a-hole boss who gets fame and gets power hungry (never heard this one before).
The whole show is to lead you into thinking he's the pedo but the worst thing they throw at him is saying he made women massage him on set (power move and shitty obviously).
Did he add some sexual innuendos into the show? Very possible. The Ariana GRande thing was the worst but it also seems that wasn't apart of the show. It was a weird "extras" version on youtube??
Also these "journalist" try and point to every instance of him using any type of long cyclinder food is a dick joke. They talk about pickles? Sausages? Big noses? Obvious dick joke?? lol
Also the massive running joke of Nickelodean was always about getting "slimed" and getting weird goo on your face. But if he does it he's saying you're getting jizz on your face?
Dude was an arse hole but alot of stretches were made during this show to try and make you perceive something without any real evidence. Very possible he is a predator and proof will come out but this show didn't produce anything to show he was a pedophile from what I could tell.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 9:52 pm
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