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re: Sicario
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:51 pm to TigersnJeeps
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:51 pm to TigersnJeeps
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who is "they" being referred to in the parenthetical? Mexican govt or the cartels?
Sorry. The government.
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:00 pm to topcat88
No, her character was great, how a real woman would react in those scenarios. So refreshing from all the go-girl, strong independent woman bullshite that you see everywhere else.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:59 pm to Seldom Seen
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all the go-girl, strong independent woman bullshite that you see everywhere else.
yeah, I kept waiting for the petite chick to kick everyone's arse and kill everybody.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 3:37 pm to MorbidTheClown
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I kept waiting for the petite chick to kick everyone's arse and kill everybody.
I think some of yall have ptsd.
It seems yall are constantly looking for something in every movie to bitch about rather than just watching it and seeing how it plays out.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 3:39 pm to Corinthians420
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yall are constantly looking for something in every movie to bitch about
nope, i enjoyed the movie. but, let's not pretend that scenario doesn't happen in several movies/tv shows.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 3:46 pm to topcat88
Never got the love for this film.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 3:57 pm to MorbidTheClown
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let's not pretend that scenario doesn't happen in several movies/tv shows
Which is why films have to be judged on their individual merit.
If you are gonna watch something you should at least try to throw out your preconceived notions.
There are other people in the thread that seem more ptsd than you
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 4:06 pm to Corinthians420
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you should at least try to throw out your preconceived notions.
agreed. I was pleasantly surprised. i guess" waiting" was the wrong word. More like "hoping" it didn't happen.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:00 pm to MorbidTheClown
The protagonist is Alejandro, it’s a revenge story, it’s just told through her eyes. We see the events through her which is a brilliant twist on the genre.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:18 pm to MorbidTheClown
quote:Yeah, I kept wondering when it was going to happen. When the cop started strangling her, I was like "oh, here we go". But he got the best of her and she had to be saved. And then later she was shot and held up by Benicio.
yeah, I kept waiting for the petite chick to kick everyone's arse and kill everybody.
Here's a question:
I don't understand why she was so disturbed by the shootout just north of the border during the first operation. She made it seem like something unethical had happened, when in fact those bad hombres all had weapons and were going to be shooting at the convoy. What did I miss?
Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:38 pm to Big Scrub TX
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don't understand why she was so disturbed by the shootout just north of the border during the first operation. She made it seem like something unethical had happened, when in fact those bad hombres all had weapons and were going to be shooting at the convoy. What did I miss?
Been a while since I’ve seen it but if it’s the part I think you’re talking about, then she was upset that they basically used her as a cover for that whole mission and lied about what they were actually there for
It was supposed to be an extradition mission, and ideally without drama. But the actual plan is to continue to disrupt that guys operation so it can lead to the take down of his boss. The ambush and all that was planned / expected.
She thought she was coming on board to run point and help, this is her first sign that she is a tool being used by the CIA to get around their limitations within the law
Also I think the film is very deliberate in its point that the “bad hombres” are the CIA black hatters in the movie, I think it’s hard to understand the movie without atleast understanding that perspective
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:18 pm to Kingshakabooboo
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Alejandro are the definition of anti-hero.
Josh Brolin's character and Alejandro are very different people with very different motives. Alejandro wanted to gain his vengeance against the people that killed his family, legal or not. Josh Brolin's character was using Alejandro.
Alejandro killed innocent children in front of his mother and father at dinner.
That's a good guy?
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:23 pm to Kingshakabooboo
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Brolin and Alejandro are the definition of anti-hero. They absolutely are the good guys and are battling evil and what it is doing to our country. Now, do they go about it in a way that we as normal American citizens can justify morally…maybe not, but they are definitely fighting for the god guys.
Man media literacy is at an all time low.
After reading through the thread, it’s wildly concerning how many people on this site have this deep level on untrust on normal governmental processes done via congressmen (understandable), but somehow those same people have absolute and complete blind faith and trust that shadowy government agencies like the CIA and FBI are doing what they do because it’s morally right and in the name of American safety
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:30 pm to topcat88
Top 5 favorite movie for me. This thread made me watch it again tonight
Posted on 5/21/25 at 9:09 am to holdmuh keystonelite
I finally watched Sicario for the first time last night. I loved the movie. I don't really have any complaints other than the very end.
It's possible I misunderstood what she was signing, but the standoff between Alejandro and Kate seemed unnecessary. Couldn't Kate sign the form then easily tell whoever needs to be told that she signed under duress? I understand this was a way for her to confront in the daylight what was happening the entire movie, to show that she is essentially powerless to stop it, then show that she could have at least stopped Alejandro but did not. I just couldn't stop thinking that the signature at the end was sort of pointless if she really did not want to sign it.
It's possible I misunderstood what she was signing, but the standoff between Alejandro and Kate seemed unnecessary. Couldn't Kate sign the form then easily tell whoever needs to be told that she signed under duress? I understand this was a way for her to confront in the daylight what was happening the entire movie, to show that she is essentially powerless to stop it, then show that she could have at least stopped Alejandro but did not. I just couldn't stop thinking that the signature at the end was sort of pointless if she really did not want to sign it.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 11:07 am to saintsfan22
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The whole point is she didn't know what she signed for and how real shite was. Can't really convey that if she's just following the orders.
She was the films Patsy. A tool. Used to push the plot further and allow the viewer to reflect on the confusion as well.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 11:16 am to DestrehanTiger
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Couldn't Kate sign the form then easily tell whoever needs to be told that she signed under duress?
I think she was fully and completely broken in that moment, and her not shooting Alejandro was her accepting it all.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 11:37 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I think she was fully and completely broken in that moment, and her not shooting Alejandro was her accepting it all.
My question isn't really about Kate's motivations for her actions in the movie, it is more about the script. Now that I think about it, I also question Alejandro's motivation for wanting to get it signed. He already accomplished what he was setting out to do for his revenge. Why did he care that the form was signed for the US government? it seems like Matt would have made more sense in that scene.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:12 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I think she was fully and completely broken in that moment, and her not shooting Alejandro was her accepting it all.
This and it showed they could easily just kill her if they needed to do so.
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:14 pm to DestrehanTiger
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I also question Alejandro's motivation for wanting to get it signed. He already accomplished what he was setting out to do for his revenge. Why did he care that the form was signed for the US government?
What makes you think Alejandro is done done and will return back to be an abogado again?
Also, the US gave him the opportunity for that revenge. You think that his obligations and repayment ended there?
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