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Posted on 9/26/24 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 2:02 pm to
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comparative analysis of what? what are you talking about?


Probably should dig up the article that compares shows from streaming services like The Penguin vs The Acolyte. Hint: One did much better than the other.

I’ll get around to that eventually.

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You cited that the show lost $230M. I don't know how that's quantifiable through a stremaing service, hence why these numbers you cited mean nothign to anyone wtih a brain.


I said COST, not lost. But then what ever was spent, it was a ridiculous amount for a 1 season show that for mocked then cancelled.

Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 2:08 pm to
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Just like how Return of the Jedi never turned a profit.


What?? I never said or heard anything about that.

That sounds absurd on the face of it, 40 years later.

*ETA - I think someone’s info is wonky. From screenrant…

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Even as the least successful movie in the original Star Wars trilogy, Return of the Jedi still surpassed almost every other film that came after it. The movie's $104 million budget was the highest of the original trilogy while its $886 million domestic box office gross was the lowest, but it still ended with $782 million in profit.


ScreenRant

This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 2:17 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 2:08 pm to
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It was cast off Disney plus in a tax write off that legally binds them from ever putting the show on there or anywhere else again, selling merch, etc, etc. essentially it erased it from existence like it never even happened and legally cannot be brought back.

Damn. Sends a clear signal. Thats brutal


Yet awesome
Posted by Reece Bobby
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 2:15 pm to
"The LGBTQ people will be back...
and in larger numbers"

-Obie Straight Kenobi
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 2:25 pm to
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Probably should dig up the article that compares shows from streaming services like The Penguin vs The Acolyte. Hint: One did much better than the other.



Yeah no one here really cares about that comparison.

I care if a show is good or not. Simple as that. And i actually watch them to make that determination.

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I said COST, not lost


My bad. I guess that's what happens when you take 3rd and 4th hand information. It gets lost in translation sometimes.

Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 3:32 pm to
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What?? I never said or heard anything about that.

That sounds absurd on the face of it, 40 years later.

*ETA - I think someone’s info is wonky. From screenrant…

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Even as the least successful movie in the original Star Wars trilogy, Return of the Jedi still surpassed almost every other film that came after it. The movie's $104 million budget was the highest of the original trilogy while its $886 million domestic box office gross was the lowest, but it still ended with $782 million in profit.

You can find many articles on it. Just search return of the Jedi profit.

Maybe screen rant is saying 782 million in gross profit. Apparently the Darth Vader actor was only supposed to receive net profit, and they claimed they made none
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Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 9/26/24 at 3:43 pm to
IDK but 7 x production costs seems like a win.

This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 3:44 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 8:54 am to
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You can find many articles on it. Just search return of the Jedi profit.


Funny you say this after I posted a link detailing exactly what the movie cost to make and the profits it earned.

Even if you triple the listed production costs (double is standard for promoting and advertising) ROTJ still brought in bank.

It's not even remotely close. Yes, it may have been the most expensive to make, and made the least of the original 3 movies, but it absolutely did make profit. Bigly.


IDK what James Earl Jones or whoever's individual contract stipulated, or what may have transpired between him and the studio, but that's not the issue. To claim it NEVER earned a profit, after all these years, the VHS, DVD sales, rights to streaming (even back then with HBO, I suspect) as well as the merch... the OG Star Wars movies printed money.
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 9:30 am to
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It's not even remotely close. Yes, it may have been the most expensive to make, and made the least of the original 3 movies, but it absolutely did make profit. Bigly.

I know that, and the people that wrote that article know that.

BUT according to Lucasfilm and Hollywood accounting it never has.

That's the entire point, they can make the numbers look however they want them to look.

All the profits that Return of the Jedi made were offset by made up, bullshite expenses so that it never technically made a net profit.
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:38 am to
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All the profits that Return of the Jedi made were offset by made up, bullshite expenses so that it never technically made a net profit.


There's a whole subindustry of lawyers in LA who represent talent in fighting for the money they are owed from studios for back end profits. They exist because studios actively work to report fewer profits.

It's a huge part of the whole "none of us have any inkling how Hollywood studio finances work" fact that so many here ignore.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 11:42 am to
Fair enough, but I don’t know what else to say. I can’t imagine that any contract with a single actor, no matter how big, would twist the numbers to such an extent as to claim it never made a profit. If this isn’t some Colombian money laundering accounting trick, then I don’t know what it is.

This post was edited on 9/27/24 at 11:43 am
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